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Problems with a split section

Marcus.Isacsson — Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:20:33 GMT

Hi fellas!

I've used a "trick" where we get the line between sections to dissappear by using a filter that hides the line (with a linestyle consisting of a dot and spaces.

But we're facing some problems with split sections where we get this look. Does anoyne have a workaround to solve this kind of issue?
(doesnt work to join the gap and move it individually either). Revit 2016, old project running.

Re: Problems with a split section

Mirko.Jurcevic — Thu, 01 Feb 2018 19:08:00 GMT

Hi,

not sure I understand what is the actual problem and why did you use such solution, I can recommend you try to do what I wrote here:

http://www.engipedia.com/how-to-adjust-revit-section-line-style/

Maybe section line can be white colorued, just draw what's missing?

Re: Problems with a split section

Marcus.Isacsson — Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:15:01 GMT

@Mirko.Jurcevic wrote:
Hi,
not sure I understand what is the actual problem and why did you use such solution, I can recommend you try to do what I wrote here:
http://www.engipedia.com/how-to-adjust-revit-section-line-style/

Maybe section line can be white colorued, just draw what's missing?

Hi, thanks for reaching out.
I want the line between the section tails to hide. Changes in object styles doesn't seem to make any difference(?).
The filter trick kinda solved it, except the part shown in the picture above.

Re: Problems with a split section

FAIR59 — Sun, 04 Feb 2018 14:06:46 GMT

The offending lines you see, are a result of the way Revit displays a line pattern. The pattern is center justified, and all excess is drawn with a solid line.

The only way to achieve what you desire, is to drag all line ends to a suitable position manually.

Re: Problems with a split section

Marcus.Isacsson — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 07:25:20 GMT

@FAIR59 wrote:
The offending lines you see, are a result of the way Revit displays a line pattern. The pattern is center justified, and all excess is drawn with a solid line.

The only way to achieve what you desire, is to drag all line ends to a suitable position manually.

Have you tried this with a split section?
I've been adjusting it manually for a while but can't get it to completely dissappear.
Which is what we want (gets cluttered with those section lines going all the way).

Re: Problems with a split section

FAIR59 — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:54:28 GMT

Re: Problems with a split section

Marcus.Isacsson — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:18:03 GMT

@FAIR59 wrote:

Sweet, thats what we're looking for. How did you achieve it?

Re: Problems with a split section

FAIR59 — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:36:25 GMT

just drag the 2 dots of a "corner"line into the corner

Re: Problems with a split section

RobDraw — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 12:04:40 GMT

Sweco3600 wrote:
Hi, thanks for reaching out.
I want the line between the section tails to hide.

Why doesn't this work for you?

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-lt/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2017/ENU/RevitLT-DocumentPresent/files/GUID-2B772E24-077A-46EF-BDB7-D5486D798109-htm.html

Re: Problems with a split section

tuuletin — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:07:06 GMT

Hello, dear friends. I have found the solution to this issue.

Make sure, that a crop box of your view oversizes your section tag (a section tag is inside a crop box).

This helps me, when I face this issue. Maybe you need to use extra masking regions to cover more things in a view, when you oversize a crop box and see more.

Re: Problems with a split section

martijn_pater — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:57:12 GMT

...actually I think @RobDraw already answered it, just click the 'gaps in segments' symbol. Or neither/none of us understand the issue ^^ (...or is/was this not available in 2016?LT?)

Gaps in Segments

Re: Problems with a split section

tuuletin — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:46:25 GMT

@martijn_pater I was trying to reporoduce my advice to place a section tag inside of a view crop box - this doesn't help me now. This issue appears randomly. Sometimes you can easily drag the dots and hide lines, but sometimes dots are missing or you can't just hide these lines. As I remember this issue with split segment sections (jogged sections) was in Revit always (at least up to Revit 2020).

This is the needed section (plan view).

When you hide a section line - you can see small remainders close to section tags. Normally you can drag a dot and move it over a section tag (hiding these lines).

Here I was trying to drag the right line dot over the right section tag. This results in random tag jumping (in the center).

Here I was trying to drag the left line dot. After the first try - pay attention, that the tag dot has dissappeared. After that nothing you can do, to move the left line dot to the left (but it moves smoothly to the right). Also, I was trying to use "Tab"-selection (maybe a tag dot comes over a line dot?)

As I wrote, this issue comes randomly. Sometimes you can easily hide these lines, sometimes you need to fight 🤣

Re: Problems with a split section

Martijn.Pater — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 09:27:06 GMT

@tuuletin wrote:
...sometimes you need to fight 🤣

Ah yes, that's somewhat buggy. However the thing is I'd just suggest to accept having these lines beyond/near the crop region instead of trying to force it and just incorporate such (minor) things into your office standard.

Re: Problems with a split section

tuuletin — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 09:31:11 GMT

This thing is minor, but you barely can start construction works with such a flaw in drawings... 😥

So, the way is: just randomly try to move to short distances: tag dots, view crop box, "jogging" distance, while switching on and off the section line. You have chances to eliminate those annoying lines.

Re: Problems with a split section

Martijn.Pater — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 09:46:10 GMT

Well if you absolutely have to, then perhaps create a margin within the section tag families, then you could keep those section ends within your crop boundary avoiding the issue.

Re: Problems with a split section

RobDraw — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:05:18 GMT

@tuuletin wrote:
This thing is minor, but you barely can start construction works with such a flaw in drawings.

The fact that you came across this early has nothing to do with the issue.

As far as it being a flaw is a matter of opinion.

We've all had to make concessions in the way we present drawings due to graphic limitations in Revit. Some realize that jumping through hoops trying to achieve a standard might mean that the standard needs review and possible revising.

So, ask yourself, "What does that line indicate and why does it need to be hidden?"

Share the answer if you want but at least think about it before bashing it.

Re: Problems with a split section

Martijn.Pater — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:32:18 GMT

My point exactly. And fwiw ofcourse you could also use color to differentiate from the drawing/model elements... those lines indicate the (exact) position of the section ofcourse, or perhaps if it's more like a generic section you could use view references...