topic Re: family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements in Revit Architecture Forum

family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:11:37 GMT

Hello,

I wish to create or modify a family of structural elements : for now beams but mayby walls in the future.

My issue is : I want that, in my model, on architecte can not suppress a beam or a wall except if the structural ingeneer accepts that supression in their model. (2 linked model : 1 architectural, 1 structural, and after other linked models of different specialities)

It came from my boss : he saw on day that in a model an architect who wanted to supress a structural element could do it but it has to be validated inside the structural model by the ingeneers. They just had to click in a box in the properties (of the family) to accept or not the modification.

I wish I was clearer but if needed I can answer any questions.

Thank you in advance for any help !

pastequevolante aka the flyingwatermelon

Re: family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements

ToanDN — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:43:29 GMT

If the architect links your structural model in his, how can he modify yours? Please clarify?

Re: family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements

RobDraw — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 18:16:20 GMT

What does suppress a beam mean?

@Anonymous wrote:

It came from my boss : he saw on day that in a model an architect who wanted to supress a structural element could do it but it has to be validated inside the structural model by the ingeneers. They just had to click in a box in the properties (of the family) to accept or not the modification.

This sounds like a coordination issue that probably could be done with more traditional means of communication.

Q: "Hey, Mr. Structural Engineer! Can we suppress this?"

A: "Sure Mr. Architect, I will take care of that right away and you will see it in the next update."

A: "Heck no! If we do that, I have to do this, this, and that which means we won't be able to that other thing."

The architect probably shouldn't be allowed to edit anything in the structural model. Especially, if the structural link is being sent to the architect. It can cause a huge problem if the structural plans are calling for something and the architectural plans are being designed without that something.

Re: family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:14:00 GMT

Hi !

If an architect whant to remove a beam, which is in the structual model, how can he notify the person who uses the structural model ?

How the structural ingeneer can accept or deny ?

*sorry, English is completly not my mother language...:smileyfrustrated *

Re: family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements

RobDraw — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:16:17 GMT

How about an email with a picture?

Phone call?

Re: family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:16:39 GMT

Hi,

The point is that the architect needs to have a link of the structural model. But if he wants to change Something in it, how can he notify the structural people thanks to Revit ?

Re: family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:17:38 GMT

My point is : is it possible to do Something directly in Revit ?

Re: family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements

RobDraw — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:37:20 GMT

My point us that the architect should not be changing the structural model. He should request the structural designer to do it.

Re: family : validation by Structural ingeneer to supress structural elements

ToanDN — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:57:36 GMT

If the architect wants to move a beam, he needs to ask the structural engineer. If the structural engineer wants to block a windows, he needs to ask the architect. That is how it works.

If you want a better communication your team can try Collaboration for Revit (C4R) so everyone can be chit-chatting in a more "high tech" fashion while working on the project. It comes with a cost though.