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Friday Feature #6 Create any Organic model

Viveka_CD — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:29:29 GMT

Hello Awesome Community!

Welcome to Friday Feature Series # 6 Create any Organic model using the Revit software

As part of this series, We want you to experiment and interested to see what kinds of great organic forms you can design with the Revit software.

You can model roofs, tensile structures or furniture. Feel free to add images or screencasts or a set of steps!

We would love to hear from you!

To set the ball rolling, I've created a simple organic form using adaptive component and included steps for Creating patterns and editing divided surfaces.

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Happy submitting your Friday Form - looking forward!

Best Regards,

How to model organic froms in revit?

josemukalel — Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:28:29 GMT

I am working for a project which need this shapes(as per pic).I got stuck about this.Please help me ..

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

L.Maas — Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:42:06 GMT

You will have to do this with a conceptual mass. In there there are more tools available to create organic shapes.

have look at the buildz website for ideas.

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

constantin.stroescu — Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:47:50 GMT

I think the most suitable method consists in using Conceptual Mass - Sweep - a Path from a Spline through Points, and then placing different shapes in normal planes to path using Driving Curve Reference Points ( or/and Driven by Host Reference Points) positions. Finish by Create Form > Solid Form
using in Project , Component Model in Place - Swept Blend could be an option , but you must use then more segements one after another...

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

josemukalel — Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:16:03 GMT

I used Conceptual Mass.But the groves and shapes dosent work with me as i mentioned in image.If possible can i get a screencast or any tutorial for this .please

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

constantin.stroescu — Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:19:10 GMT

hi,

I realized something very interesting in making sweeps with different profiles in Revit.

If I try to make the form from the beginning using Path and Profiles it will be a big chance not to work.

But if I’ll create first a simple sweep and then edit the Path and the Profiles it works surprisingly well , allowing almost every alteration of the form

I’ve made a description of a rough modeling process( a screencast is attached)

First, in Conceptual Mass, create a row of Reference Points (at least 3 points) placed vertically one above another , select them and conect them using Spline Through Points. Turn the spline into Reference Line ( select the spline and from Properties > Identity Data > check Is Reference Line)
on the previously made spline place 2, 3 or more Points ( Driven by Host). They are connected to the spline and can move only along it.The number of these point equals the number of the profiles that are thought to be used
In Floor Plan View draw a few Reference Plans in order to use them as guides for the profiles point placement.
On each Hosted Point’s Normal Reference Plane place Reference Points (hosted on this plane). Using the Reference Planes made in step 3. align these points to them so to form a simple shape ( a rectangle for instance)
Using Spline Through Points, connect the Reference (hosted on Normal Planes ) so to create a simple rectangle ( 2 points > make a straight line, 3 points a curve) . Make these on each Normal Plane
Place the the Points Driven by Host (point 2) on their final positions on the path
Select the Path Reference Line and the Profile Lines ( use filter and take care not to select the points or other entities except path and profiles) and Create Form > Solid Form . A simple parallelepiped will be create.
Now, the Path and the Profiles can be edited almost in any way….

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

chrisplyler — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:34:28 GMT

Oh Constantin,

You are a genious, but perhaps old as I am, occasionally my brain misses the easy path.

The copy function is your friend.

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

constantin.stroescu — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:20:09 GMT

hi Chris,

yeh, you a right. I am here the old fashion one .

I didn't use copy because I was afraid that doing this I'll loose the Driven by Host quality of the Reference (hosted)Point. I've tried with Copy/Paste but with no result ...

So, I try it now using your advice and I've made copies of all the points from the Normal Plane including the Hosted Point ( on Path). Even if by copy the hosted point loose its quality , there is no problem to reasign it by using Pick New Host again (to the path)

Thank you for the tip!

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

Corsten.Au — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 23:11:37 GMT

You have to make this in Rhino or 3ds Max and get the mass

imported as Mass family in revit and that Mass family

back in revit project..

Even if you are able to do direct massing in Revit then you will need

adaptive family in various parts..

your best bet would be get the drawings, dimensions ( section, elevation etc )

and split it into doable parts and go with it..

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

Alfredo_Medina — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 03:11:02 GMT

Why is it that most of the Screencast videos posted here are mute? That tool allows recording of voice, you know? 🙂

Re: Friday Feature #6 Create any Organic model

ToanDN — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 03:51:41 GMT

Some people hate their own voice. Myself included.

Re: How to model organic forms in revit?

Viveka_CD — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 15:33:32 GMT

Thanks for the idea @Corsten.Au

It will be helpful to the community if you can share a screencast.

Regards,

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

Viveka_CD — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 15:36:54 GMT

@Alfredo_Medina yeah I guess we should add a voice

Re: How to model organic froms in revit?

chrisplyler — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 16:30:54 GMT

What the heck is going on with this thread?

You started it in 2018. There are a bunch of posts from 2016 as replies, including one of my own. And then you've replied again in 2018.

What The Friggin Heck???

Re: How to model organic forms in Revit?

Viveka_CD — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 19:27:05 GMT

Hi @chrisplyler

I can explain - its primary consolidation of threads especially necros and also combining similar topics - regarding organic modeling/parametric design in Revit and gauging interest level among the community.

These tools include adaptive component, sweeps, extrusion, generic family, etc.

If you come across threads regarding organic modeling using Revit, please add the link to this thread. Sorry if this caused confusion!

While I'm expecting more participation and design processes from the community, I'll share more information from the analytics if possible.

Regards,

Re: How to model organic forms in Revit?

chrisplyler — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 20:19:18 GMT

Seems an odd thing to do for a Friday Feature thread, but okay. It's turned from, "Hey show us your organic designs," to a situation where everyone is now replying to a two-year-old thread.

Re: How to model organic forms in Revit?

Viveka_CD — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:37:55 GMT

@chrisplyler Yeah hoping this attracts more responses, for it to qualify as a feature - that adds fuel to a user's imagination translated using modeling tools to create unique and complex forms in Revit.

We want the community to try and experiment using tools within Revit - nothing beats its parametric benefits and break the myth that Revit is not the easiest tool to create (multiple)curved forms or fluid shapes.

Organic modeling within Revit has not been ventured into as much and complex modeling is associated with formula driven modeling.

I'm posting a few examples from the community hoping there is an initiative to explore more in this arena:

Best way to create a pipe and twists in several non uniform directions
massing & voids by David Light where he describes simple steps using voids to cut massing geometry in Revit
Complex Sweep and Railing Path
chair steel frame

The possibilities are limitless - creating parametric trusses, tensile roofs, decorative elements, slatted furniture etc

Once we experiment the tools within Revit then we can take it further by integrating macros and codes.

For code specialists, Dynamo is one of the best ways to solve complex shapes and automate the design process (an infrastructure example).

More information where firms connect Dynamo to Revit, establishing rules that automated the creation of detailed models.

Regards,

Re: How to model organic forms in Revit?

Viveka_CD — Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:14:58 GMT

Sharing an interesting thread and solutions by experts for an Adaptive Components and Parametric Ceiling

Regards,

Re: Friday Feature #6 Create any Organic model

syman2000 — Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:05:47 GMT

Hi,

Just want to showcase what you can built with Revit using only point and spline through point(s). These are few example the stuff you can built inside Revit without needing any special software or dynamo.

Re: Friday Feature #6 Create any Organic model

Viveka_CD — Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:43:47 GMT

Hi @syman2000

Thanks for sharing!:)

Did you create them in Revit entirely?

Mario looks perfect!

Regards,