topic Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall in Revit Architecture Forum

Door frame inserts beyond wall

Anonymous — Sun, 25 Mar 2018 22:02:38 GMT

I downloaded a door family from the out of the box commercial door file, its the Door-Passage-Single-Vision-Lite, when i insert the door it offsets the frame beyond the wall. Below is an image. Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to solve?

Thank you!

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Sahay_R — Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:49:26 GMT

Open the family. You will need to constrain the frame to the center line of the wall.

Which version of Revit are you using?

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Sahay_R — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 01:09:02 GMT

Try this family. The door frame stays at the center of the wall.

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:14:41 GMT

unfortunately i can't open the file i'm still working in 2016. but regarding your earlier comment can you direct me to a tutorial where i can learn to constrain the frame to the center of the wall?

Thanks!

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Sahay_R — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:58:31 GMT

Oh no. Here is an R2016 RFA - try this and see if it works.

The trick to solve your problem - look at the dor family in the family editor - look at the floor plan. Look at the dimensions for the reference planes at the width of the wall. The door and frame geometry are locked to those reference planes.

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:05:41 GMT

the door family worked perfectly! Thank you. I would like to know how to edit this door family too, and i understand your explanation but i'm not sure which constraint to edit in this family. I've attached an image of the plan below, and i was hoping you could show me which constraint is the right one.

Thanks.

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Sahay_R — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 01:43:20 GMT

From the screenshot that you had attached, it seems that you wish to constrain geometry to reference planes. The trick is to place a reference plane in the position that you want the geometry to be. Reference planes are the "bones" of Revit families. They control the dimensions and performance of geometry in the family

Some family best practices -

1) Start with reference planes. If you want to create a box 2'x2'x2', then in the plan view you will create reference planes for the length and width, and in a front or side view you will create reference planes at the top and bottom of the geometry

2) Dimension the reference planes. Associate each dimension with a parameter - for instance, length, width, etc

3) If there is something that want do NOT want to allow to change, then select the dimension and click the little padlock to lock the dimension.

4) THEN create the geometry Use the Align command and the little padlocks that come up after the Align command has been executed.

5) Test. Change the values of the parameters. As the reference planes move, the geometry will flex along with them

Can you show me exactly which constraint it is that you wish to edit in the screenshot? I will then be able to give you a more specific solution

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 16:11:28 GMT

That is kind of my problem, i'm not sure which constraint is controlling where the jamb sits. I downloaded this family and i'm not sure how to edit it.

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Sahay_R — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 18:50:31 GMT

To see constraints - click on the Show Constraints button at the bottom of your screen. Constraints will show up as red and you will be able to tweak them

Also - if you click on a piece of geometry, you will be able to see which reference planes they are constrained to because the padlocks will show up next to the item the geometry is constrained to. Unlocking the padlocks will remove the constraint.

Also - if you try to move a piece of geometry that to re-constrain, Revit will prompt you to Remove Constraints. Accept the prompt, and then re constrain the geometry.

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Corsten.Au — Thu, 05 Apr 2018 13:56:04 GMT

The reference CAD file for Door is without the frame...so ideally if you put a

new door in revit with exact opening size, you will get a smaller door cause its deducting

the thickness of the frame,

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

dgiordano2ZJP9 — Sat, 24 Sep 2022 21:06:12 GMT

I have double doors that will not align with the center of the wall. When I go to edit the family and put an EQ/EQ dimension at the center line of the wall and try to constrain the dimension, I get an error that constraining the dimension would over constrain the family.

Re: Door frame inserts beyond wall

Sahay_R — Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:19:21 GMT

When that happens, try clicking on Remove Constraints and then re-constrain.