topic FILTER OVERRIDES FOR WALL PHASE AND STRUCTURAL LAYER in Revit Architecture Forum

FILTER OVERRIDES FOR WALL PHASE AND STRUCTURAL LAYER

wswart2QED8 — Fri, 05 Apr 2024 22:48:35 GMT

In a presentation plan for a client, we are showing new walls with gray poche and existing walls in white. We have used View Template Filters to override walls by phase created to achieve this result (see attached).

The complication, however, is that this method colors in all structural layers of the wall. We would like the air gaps inside double stud walls to render white/empty. The obvious solution is to build the double stud wall types as two single stud walls spaced as desired with a hidden locked dimension.

We would prefer to keep the air gaps in wet walls baked into the wall type itself, as our plumbing engineer has specific dimensions called out. Is it possible to use filters entirely to get structural layers 1,2,4,5 to appear gray while keeping 3 (air/thermal barrier) white?

Re: FILTER OVERRIDES FOR WALL PHASE AND STRUCTURAL LAYER

barthbradley — Fri, 05 Apr 2024 23:08:40 GMT

You could get there with Parts. Create Parts from Walls.

Re: FILTER OVERRIDES FOR WALL PHASE AND STRUCTURAL LAYER

wswart2QED8 — Sat, 06 Apr 2024 00:49:13 GMT

@barthbradley thanks for the quick feedback. I converted a test wall to parts, and added another view template filter with visibility turned off for all Parts that have a material witha name including "Air". The part indeed goes away, because i can only select the gyp. board and the stud part layers. However, all three wall parts render as dark gray--same as the reference image on the original post. I guess the filter that makes all new walls gray supercedes the filter for parts. I also tried putting the part on a hidden workset, with the same result.

Any other workflow ideas?

P.S. big fan of your solutions across the forum--quite the honor to have a response from the Revit Legend!

Re: FILTER OVERRIDES FOR WALL PHASE AND STRUCTURAL LAYER

ToanDN — Sat, 06 Apr 2024 19:34:45 GMT

If you are talking about the void in the plumbing wall then you can just not have it in the wall type. There are technically two walls with a big space between them. It is more flexible because you don't need the duplicate wall type every time you need the different air gap dimension.

Re: FILTER OVERRIDES FOR WALL PHASE AND STRUCTURAL LAYER

wswart2QED8 — Sun, 07 Apr 2024 20:34:02 GMT

Thanks for thinking about this @ToanDN. That is also what I ended up doing. Locked spacing dimensions and then hid the dims (hopefully they don't get moved around accidentally later). Generally I agree that its better to model the air gap with two separate walls, but in the specific cases of these wet walls the gap is fixed per type called out in the schedule.