topic Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them. in Revit Architecture Forum

Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 21:13:44 GMT

hi - Is there a reason why my columns and beams are gray and not the color of the material I assigned to them?

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Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

ToanDN — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 21:45:27 GMT

They are existing. Change the view's phase filter to Show Complete.

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 21:49:49 GMT

Ahh, but they are "existing" is there a way to have existing structural framing inherit the material color or is it the nature of how Revit treats "new" vs "existing"?

thanks

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

ToanDN — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 23:16:49 GMT

They are the same beam and column as the colored ones. They show in gray because the view's phase filter overrides existing components to be display in gray. Just do what I suggested and they will show in colors.

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 22:38:46 GMT

Phase filter is already "showing complete"

Also, 2nd image shows that the other piece of framing is highlighted and is "existing", yet shows the correct color, not gray

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

SteveKStafford — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 23:04:41 GMT

The structural framing families have an instance parameter for structural material, is it assigned to the correct material?

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

ToanDN — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 23:16:22 GMT

Please select a gray member and show its properties here.

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 23:22:56 GMT

can you show me which instance parameter you're referring to?

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 23:31:45 GMT

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

ToanDN — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 23:35:21 GMT

Is [Softwood, Lumber] material also assigned to colored members? If so, check View filters list and see if any filter overriding structural members.

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Tue, 09 Apr 2024 00:16:31 GMT

removed

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

ToanDN — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 23:56:11 GMT

@jvalaleducation wrote:

No, it's a different material. When I apply softwood lumber it works fine, but that doesn't help me understand the reason the softwood shows as gray.

Now I am confused. What different material? Your previous screenshot shows a gray member using Softwood, Lumber material. Are you saying it is not? Maybe it's time to share your actual model here.

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Tue, 09 Apr 2024 00:15:45 GMT

sorry, you are correct.

The most recent screenshot was of a different piece of timer than the first. I'm using different materials for my 4x6 beams vs. try 2x Materials. So, ignore the previous reply.

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Tue, 09 Apr 2024 20:09:59 GMT

attached is the .rvt file.

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Thu, 11 Apr 2024 19:30:29 GMT

any help here ?? Source provided.

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

ToanDN — Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:25:22 GMT

The family element is not associated with Structural Material. Fix it.

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:33:16 GMT

No dice, plus it was already associated with "softwood..."

The view I'm in is 3d AGACAD. I feel like it's a view setting, but have no idea what it is.

https://vimeo.com/933440115/9d82edfd42?share=copy

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

ToanDN — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 01:54:52 GMT

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

jvalaleducation — Sun, 14 Apr 2024 21:44:13 GMT

That definitely solves some of it, but it doesn't explain why they are gray and the others aren't when "complete" is the phase filter. Shouldn't they all look the same? Can you elaborate on the why?

Also, doesn't solve it for ALL of the members. Some still stay gray. See video

Re: Certain beams and columns are gray, need to change them.

ToanDN — Sun, 14 Apr 2024 21:57:11 GMT

You have two phase filters: Show Complete and Complete (no overrides).

- Show Complete has been modified to override existing elements, hence the gray existing beams. I don't know the reason why this filter has been changed that cause all sorts of confusions but whatever.

- Complete (no overrides) does not override anything, show existing beams are shown with the original material.