topic Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family in Revit Architecture Forum

Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

Anonymous — Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:02:26 GMT

I've created simple face generic family and place into project but I cannot place spot elevation on every face I need.

I need to place spot elevation as in blue on pic below but some face as in red not allow me to place the spot elevation. This problem happen both plan view and this 3D view.

need to spot as blue

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

cbcarch — Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:31:33 GMT

Try:

-Architecture Tab>Work Plane>Set>Pick a Plane>Select the face you are trying to place spot elevation on.

- If the generic model has a sloped surface, it might not be able to host a spot elevation

- Try using a Floor instead of the generic model.

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 02:33:34 GMT

Thank you for your reply. It still doesn't fix the problem. Anyway, my team has found solution by changed type of family from face generic family to normal generic family then we can place spot elevation on everywhere we need.

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

barthbradley — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 02:59:48 GMT

@Anonymouswrote:
... my team has found solution by changed type of family from face generic family to normal generic family...

That's a neat trick. How'd you do that?

You sure you don't mean you made the Generic Family Work Plane-Based.

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

barthbradley — Wed, 02 May 2018 02:50:11 GMT

Appreciate the kudo, but my question remains: how the heck did you CHANGE a hosted family to an UNHOSTED family. I'd like to know the trick. Or, do you mean you re-built the family from scratch in another template?

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

Anonymous — Wed, 02 May 2018 03:04:13 GMT

@barthbradleywrote:
@Anonymouswrote:
... my team has found solution by changed type of family from face generic family to normal generic family...

That's a neat trick. How'd you do that?
You sure you don't mean you made the Generic Family Work Plane-Based.

Dear barthbradley,

Firstly we need to model by quick in exactly vertical plane at each side of building and it's perfect with face based generic model. Then, we were facing issue when we started spot elevation them. Finally, it can be solved by changed face based generic family to simple generic family.

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

barthbradley — Wed, 02 May 2018 03:15:32 GMT

Thank you for the reply back, @Anonymous. Yes, I understand perfectly what the issue was. What I don't understand is the solution you found. It sounds like you're saying that you simply changed the Face-Based family (a hosted family) to an unhosted family. It's not like this is an OOTB solution, because it isn't. I'm merely asking how your "team" accomplished this.

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

ToanDN — Wed, 02 May 2018 03:23:56 GMT

Place the face based family, disassociate it from the host, save, new file, link, copy monitor the family.
Or something like that.

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

barthbradley — Wed, 02 May 2018 03:27:09 GMT

Thanks so much @ToanDN. I know that workflow. That's the real solution here; the one that should be credited here.

@Anonymous?

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

Anonymous — Wed, 02 May 2018 03:35:22 GMT

@barthbradleywrote:
Thanks so much @ToanDN. I know that workflow. That's the real solution here; the one that should be credited here.

@Anonymous?

As you mention it cannot simply change from hosted to unhosted family. We've started from scratch because it's simple geometric one.

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

ToanDN — Wed, 02 May 2018 15:48:49 GMT

@barthbradley wrote:

Thanks so much @ToanDN. I know that workflow. That's the real solution here; the one that should be credited here.

@Anonymous?

You are welcome. But it doesn't work. Wall/Roof/Floor/Ceiling based can be copied/monitored to Face based but none can to non-host/workplane based. Another way is nesting the face based family in a non-host/workplane based family.

The strange thing is that I have no problems placing spot elevation on any types of families.

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

Anonymous — Thu, 03 May 2018 02:36:04 GMT

@ToanDNwrote:
Place the face based family, disassociate it from the host, save, new file, link, copy monitor the family.
Or something like that.

@ToanDN,

Thank you for your comment. I didn't know work flow like this before. Could you share video clip and how you place spot elevation on it.

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

ToanDN — Thu, 03 May 2018 05:25:52 GMT

Re: Cannot place spot elevation on face of family

ubaldurban — Thu, 24 Sep 2020 08:22:36 GMT

I had the same issue. The problem was that the View Range was set to 0.00 and Family was starting from 0.00 but slopping down.

After taking it to -10cm I could Place spot elevation and change the View Range back.

Maybe it is not a solution for most situations but may help someone.