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    <title>topic Re: Generic Family disappears after join in Revit Architecture Forum</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458899#M205028</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Yeah..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and the way that family is&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;created...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FACE based... so depending on its orientation and face..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Families TOP can&amp;nbsp;should be&amp;nbsp; visible in Elevation&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;( this is not a typical Window family where plan, elevation section are similar to project plan,elevation section. )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;... so in every orientation the visibility was not consistent..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;better to keep everything visible...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="family complicacies.JPG" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/579820i3EB6B09D6A2C3C13/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="family complicacies.JPG" alt="family complicacies.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:22:26 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Corsten.Au</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-12-11T06:22:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Generic Family disappears after join</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458773#M205023</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am having an issue with joining two generic families.&amp;nbsp; I have a window trim family.&amp;nbsp; Where the trim is overlapping the trim of an adjacent window, I am using the join tool to merge the two families.&amp;nbsp; However, when I join them, they disappear in elevation and section.&amp;nbsp; They are still visible in 3D views.&amp;nbsp; The families are nested in windows hosted to the same wall, and both joined object are from the same family and type.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Before join&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="ScreenShot840.jpg" style="width: 234px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/579785i25FFA7CDBA8D5952/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="ScreenShot840.jpg" alt="ScreenShot840.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;After join&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="ScreenShot841.jpg" style="width: 232px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/579788i7CBBA8049017CE36/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="ScreenShot841.jpg" alt="ScreenShot841.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;After join 3D&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="ScreenShot842.jpg" style="width: 308px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/579789i251DCEAA596B4CC2/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="ScreenShot842.jpg" alt="ScreenShot842.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks much&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 03:51:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458773#M205023</guid>
      <dc:creator>chughes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-11T03:51:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Generic Family disappears after join</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458782#M205024</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Edit the window Family.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Check the " Visibility Settings " for the TRIM&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="visibility settings.JPG" style="width: 441px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/579791i82D425D96DFC0F38/image-dimensions/441x415?v=v2" width="441" height="415" role="button" title="visibility settings.JPG" alt="visibility settings.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Seems the Trim is switched off in elevation, and Symbolic Elevation Lines are placed in " Front Elevation " and " Rear Elevation "&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Switch on the Trim Visibility in Elevations...( in Revit Family )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;let us know or share the file..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best luck&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 04:07:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458782#M205024</guid>
      <dc:creator>Corsten.Au</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-11T04:07:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Generic Family disappears after join</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458813#M205025</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There is a visibility parameter in the family, but no symbolic lines.&amp;nbsp; I can make the joined elements reappear by toggling the visibility on and off a couple of times, but they are no longer joined after toggling visibility.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Family is attached.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 04:55:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458813#M205025</guid>
      <dc:creator>chughes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-11T04:55:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Generic Family disappears after join</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458866#M205026</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In the Family, Left/Right was un-ticked..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have switched it on and now it works fine the way you needed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Revit family and File is attached..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="These Left/Right was unticked" style="width: 407px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/579808iFF78956486A20EFA/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="window - hidden visibility.JPG" alt="These Left/Right was unticked" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;These Left/Right was unticked&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:01:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458866#M205026</guid>
      <dc:creator>Corsten.Au</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-11T06:01:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Generic Family disappears after join</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458873#M205027</link>
      <description>When one element is set to invisible on Elev/Sec, other elements joined with it will also be invisible on Elev/Sec, regardless of they were originally set to visible.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:05:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458873#M205027</guid>
      <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-11T06:05:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Generic Family disappears after join</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458899#M205028</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yeah..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and the way that family is&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;created...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FACE based... so depending on its orientation and face..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Families TOP can&amp;nbsp;should be&amp;nbsp; visible in Elevation&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;( this is not a typical Window family where plan, elevation section are similar to project plan,elevation section. )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;... so in every orientation the visibility was not consistent..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;better to keep everything visible...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="family complicacies.JPG" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/579820i3EB6B09D6A2C3C13/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="family complicacies.JPG" alt="family complicacies.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:22:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8458899#M205028</guid>
      <dc:creator>Corsten.Au</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-11T06:22:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Generic Family disappears after join</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8499810#M205029</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry it took so long to circle back.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for the fix!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2019 04:53:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/generic-family-disappears-after-join/m-p/8499810#M205029</guid>
      <dc:creator>chughes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-04T04:53:29Z</dc:date>
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