topic Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin in Revit Architecture Forum

Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when rendering

octavio2 — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 12:47:04 GMT

The stucco construction joints drawn with model lines on the exterior elevations (to show scoring when the wall is very large) do show in the elevations and in the 3D model, but when the model is rendered using one of the rendering methods in the cube on the left lower corner of the Revit window (shaded, realistic, etc.) , these lines to show the scoring do not show. The rendering is basically OK, but I wonder why these lines do not show on the rendered model. I thought that when we use model lines (against detail lines) the lines have to show in the model.

Any advise or feedback a out this?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

L.Maas — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 13:14:37 GMT

They are visible in the model. However when rendered they will not show. You can think of it as this, model lines have no material an no depth and thus renderer will not be able to render it.

If you need to show separation in the renderer you will need to create this. This can be done to make use of a small extrusion. Depending on the type of renders you make this could be a small solid extrusion or a small void extrusion. Otherwise you have to create small gaps in other ways.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

barthbradley — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 16:36:20 GMT

Vertical Wall Reveal

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

ToanDN — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:09:55 GMT

Model lines have no surface or volume so they cannot show in a rendering. Use wall reveals or a line based family for hor/ver straight lines, or an adaptive family for complex curves.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

octavio2 — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 11:20:59 GMT

Will like to see suggestion on ways on how to add the scoring to the Revit drawing that will show on the rendering. The attached rendering do not show the scoring that is seen when a PDF is created.

How to add the voids?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

Avaris. — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 12:59:01 GMT

Would recommend to solve this issue within the texture. It makes no sense to model a very detailed pattern on your surface.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

octavio2 — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 16:41:31 GMT

The "Wall Reveal" "Default" profile seems to work, but it is too BIG. the reveals that the wall have are something like 1/2" x 1/2". How or where do we make that "Default" reveal smaller? (it is parametric?).

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

Avaris. — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 17:10:23 GMT

Create a new profile. New family > Profile-reveal > draw whatever you want. Load it into your project.

Then edit the type, (duplicate one) and change the profile here to what you drew before.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

barthbradley — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 17:19:02 GMT

Here.

Load this 1/2" x 1/2" Profile Family into your Project and assign it to a "Reveal" System Family.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

octavio2 — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 18:09:08 GMT

Thanks, it seems to work.

Might have to figure out a way to paint the interior black or another darker color.

Reveals being so common in architecture, I wonder why the default "wall reveal" cannot be made parametric so we could change the dimensions on the spot without so much hassle.

Interesting subject, thought.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

barthbradley — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 18:34:17 GMT

So, basically what you are saying is that you want a "reveal" which can be sized per Instance -- not per Type. Well then, create a Line-Based Family that pulls a void cut, and create Instance Parameters to control each instance's depth and height.

BTW: you can paint the interior faces of the reveal black by using the Paint Tool.

...you know, that when Thin Lines are turned off, that 1/2" x 1/2" reveal may just look like one thick line. Wall Reveals use the Wall Projection/Cut Lines Weights.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

octavio2 — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 20:18:29 GMT

The paint is done in the family editor or in the model?

Where is the paint tool?

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

barthbradley — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 22:12:21 GMT

In the family editor??? The family is a profile -- not geometry. Do you look at what I posted? You paint the faces of the reveal geometry that is created from the profile. The Paint tool is located on the Modify Tab of the Project.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

octavio2 — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 10:53:30 GMT

The paint tool is not working in the reveal, not even when I used the split surface tool.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

Avaris. — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 11:38:51 GMT

You need to use the tab-key in order to select the inside of the reveals.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

barthbradley — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 18:04:23 GMT

@octavio2 wrote:

The paint tool is not working in the reveal, not even when I used the split surface tool.

I have no issues. Are you actually selecting a FACE of the reveal geometry? In your case; a 1/2" x 1/2" reveal should have 3 separate faces. Each will accept Paint.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

octavio2 — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 16:10:17 GMT

Continuing with my rendering education, I have the following issue: I have now the problem with the west wall, which is existing brick, to be painted of the color shown, but has some undesired reflections, which I believe are not sun or shade reflections. It is the short wall where the window is.

Any idea of how to get rid of these diagonal reflections? Or what cause these?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

barthbradley — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 16:15:55 GMT

Post the file so we don't have to guess.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

octavio2 — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 17:05:00 GMT

The rendering where the reflections are shown is attached in the same posting where the question about these undesired reflections was made. The reflections are on the short wall on the left, where the window is. They look like diagonals emanating from the window opening there. Thanks.

Re: Stucco Construction joints drawn with model llines do not show when renderin

barthbradley — Sat, 26 Jan 2019 17:08:23 GMT

I don't know where that is. Can you direct me?