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Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Family.

toussaint.jimenezrojas — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 16:34:19 GMT

I'm working in a huge interior project where we want to create a Furniture Table with all the Symbols of the Electrical Equipment on it.

I know I can nest the Electrical on the Furniture but my Electrical Family it has the Model Itself and also an Annotation Symbol to Shown the proper way the Electrical Symbols are expressed in a Floor Plan.

The problem is that when I nest the Electrical Family in the Furniture I can't see the Annotation that comes with the Electrical Fixture.

Anyone had to try this nested approach.

Thanks.

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

RobDraw — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:02:06 GMT

I would not use that approach. The issue probably lies in the electrical family and you will get a similar result even if you nest the family. I'm guessing that you used a family that is made to be hosted to a vertical face and the annotation symbol is oriented to show in plan view. You should use a family that is designed for horizontal surface mounting.

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

toussaint.jimenezrojas — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 16:41:25 GMT

Humm,

That's true and make sense, I will try and see how is going.

Thanks.

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

barthbradley — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 18:27:04 GMT

@toussaint.jimenezrojas wrote:

The problem is that when I nest the Electrical Family in the Furniture I can't see the Annotation that comes with the Electrical Fixture.

In Plan View? Still, I don't think it will matter. It's not going to carry over to the Project.

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

ToanDN — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:35:00 GMT

You would have to load the annotation symbol families in the furniture family and place them to match the electrical fixtures as shown below. It may or may not by any more efficient than place the electrical fixtures directly in the project and group or assemble them together with the furniture piece.

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

toussaint.jimenezrojas — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:40:48 GMT

What about when you have to show the ELEC anno on top of the Family, because right now all your anno are out of the furniture, because I have a problem now and is that the family has a Masking which is hidding my Anno.

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

ToanDN — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:46:26 GMT

Doesn't seem to be an issue here.

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

barthbradley — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:33:17 GMT

are you nesting the annotation directly into the Family, or nesting the component that has the annotation?

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

barthbradley — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:49:20 GMT

@toussaint.jimenezrojas wrote:

What about when you have to show the ELEC anno on top of the Family, because right now all your anno are out of the furniture, because I have a problem now and is that the family has a Masking which is hidding my Anno.

see if you can host the masking region to a lower work plane (uncheck draw in foreground) as per this link

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/ENU/Revit-DocumentPresent/files/GUID-317442EB-D50B-4BE6-B0F8-1F3BE3AB74B9-htm.html

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

toussaint.jimenezrojas — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 22:12:11 GMT

I have the annotation family in the Electrical Fixture, and the Electrical Fixture in the Furniture.

How do you have your sample ?

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

barthbradley — Tue, 25 Dec 2018 01:07:45 GMT

@toussaint.jimenezrojas wrote:

I have the annotation family in the Electrical Fixture, and the Electrical Fixture in the Furniture.

How do you have your sample ?

It's not my family that's picture above; it's Toan's. I was wondering the same thing. I wasn't aware that you could now carry over the nested family's annotation to the project. That's a new one to me.

Re: Combining Electrical Equipment and Electrical Fixture into a Furniture Famil

ToanDN — Tue, 25 Dec 2018 03:50:31 GMT

@barthbradley wrote:

are you nesting the annotation directly into the Family, or nesting the component that has the annotation?

As I daid, they are hosted directly in the furniture family.