topic Re: Combining three windows as one family in Revit Architecture Forum

Combining three windows as one family

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jan 2019 22:24:45 GMT

Hi,

While I was looking for triple windows,

I realized it is better to combine three windows that I have.

Two fixed windows and one operable casement window.

And I wanted to use this combination in the future projects.

Is there anyway to combine two or more families?

I tried nesting families but could not get one.

Please advise.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

ToanDN — Thu, 24 Jan 2019 22:26:35 GMT

Absolutely. You can nest as many child-windows into one parent-window as you want. It is a very common approach.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jan 2019 22:46:34 GMT

Thanks ToanDN.

I tried nesting families.

So if I don't change the size, it is fine.

But when I change the size it breaks up.

Should I combine those different way if I want to modify each windows?

Re: Combining three windows as one family

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jan 2019 22:50:34 GMT

Oh got it for now.

I missed to lock those two.

So it is not possible to 'EDIT TYPE' nesting families?

Below, selected window is a host family.

Thanks a lot

Re: Combining three windows as one family

ToanDN — Thu, 24 Jan 2019 23:16:26 GMT

See the example below. for nesting family, it is better to use Instance parameters in the child families so you have more flexibility associate parameters in the parent family.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:22:39 GMT

Thanks so much ToanDN.

One more question.

I only cuts the wall in certain height (sill height 0'-0")

How can they cut the wall in every height?

Is it s view range problem?

Thanks again.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

ToanDN — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:26:39 GMT

Do you mean your View range cut plane is at 0? It should be 4' or around that range.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:42:22 GMT

View range is fine.. I think.

I am not sure what the problem is..

If it is not touching the ground, it fills with the wall color in the background.

It looks fine in 3D view though.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

barthbradley — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:43:05 GMT

TIP: Make the nested windows SHARED families, that way your Project Schedules will report 'em.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

ToanDN — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:52:27 GMT

Not sure what is going on. It works fine here. See the file.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

barthbradley — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 01:01:50 GMT

Some useful information that may be at the heart of your issue: Window & door families are not cut based on the cut plane defined in project views. Instead they are cut based on the cut plane defined in the family's plan view.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Revit-Windows-and-Doors-not-showing-as-expected.html

Re: Combining three windows as one family

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 01:03:06 GMT

Oh. It was because visual style was Shaded or Consistent Colors.

But is this normal in Shaded mode?

Is there way to make it same as window touching the ground?

Re: Combining three windows as one family

barthbradley — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 01:10:27 GMT

Plan Regions is what you need here. Are you familiar with them?

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2015/ENU/Revit-DocumentPresent/files/GUID-594B7B97-0D59-4B03-9544-E403BD03BE48-htm.html

Re: Combining three windows as one family

ToanDN — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 01:12:07 GMT

Edit teh material so that the shading is white.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

italonge — Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:51:16 GMT

Hi everyone

I was looking for many foruns and videos, but I've not found a good step by step that helped me

I'm having problem when I try to share the parameters to change sizes into project

Actually, I want to make something a little complex, but it will help me a understand a lot about Revit Families

The image below explains better:

There is 4 families: The mirror, counter, sink and faucet and the cabinet

Inside the family file it's ok, there is all parameters, but when I load it in some project, I lost them..

How can I make it editable?

Thank you so much for the help!

Re: Combining three windows as one family

ToanDN — Tue, 26 Mar 2019 20:21:30 GMT

Make those child families "shared".

Re: Combining three windows as one family

italonge — Tue, 26 Mar 2019 22:42:15 GMT

@ToanDN How to do that?

I'm only see this option around the web, but it doesn't works... Checking "shared" option don't change nothing...

So I guess it's something else that I'm missing

Re: Combining three windows as one family

ToanDN — Tue, 26 Mar 2019 23:30:43 GMT

Tick that Shared box then you will have all the parameters of the nested families for scheduling, and be able to tag them individually in project.

Re: Combining three windows as one family

italonge — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 01:39:42 GMT

Well, doesn't worked... I think I didn't not explain very well

Again I'd loaded two existing families in a Metric Generic Model

Inside this file it's ok, but when I load this into a project, I can't edit their parameters...

I'm trying to transform those existing parametes in shared parameters, but nothing works!

But the different tag worked fine...

Re: Combining three windows as one family

ToanDN — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:25:55 GMT

Well the parameters can be seen and reported. To modify them in project, you need to associate them with parameters of the host family. Do a search in "associate nested family parameters".