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    <title>topic Re: conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties in Revit Architecture Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;if [X&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt; or = 2*Y] then the 3d extent of the reference plane is visible in 3d view.&amp;nbsp; Prove me wrong.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Annotation 2019-02-25 132943.png" style="width: 914px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/607323i1A4F8ECC0E800E32/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Annotation 2019-02-25 132943.png" alt="Annotation 2019-02-25 132943.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:32:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-02-25T21:32:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8617972#M196660</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So I've started working in the conceptual massing environment after a long hiatus.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What determines how work plains are displayed as they cross the limits of the environment?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Attached is a screenshot. Notice how the first lower number of workplains are displayed as they cross the limits of the ground plain, and then the upper ones are not.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What determines how this works?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Rudy Beuc&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 02:10:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RudyBeuc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-25T02:10:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8619812#M196661</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Are you wanting to copy Levels or just draw Ref. Planes on Work Planes?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 18:19:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-25T18:19:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8620268#M196662</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I created the workplains using one of the center workplains. I forget which, front back or left, right.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can work with them ok, and they display as expected in elevation view. My question is, in the 3d view, why to the upper horizontal plains do not display where they intersect other plains, like the lower plains do?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I may have to explain this to students.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Rudy Beuc&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:03:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8620268#M196662</guid>
      <dc:creator>RudyBeuc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-25T21:03:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8620333#M196663</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;if [X&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt; or = 2*Y] then the 3d extent of the reference plane is visible in 3d view.&amp;nbsp; Prove me wrong.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Annotation 2019-02-25 132943.png" style="width: 914px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/607323i1A4F8ECC0E800E32/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Annotation 2019-02-25 132943.png" alt="Annotation 2019-02-25 132943.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:32:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-25T21:32:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8632101#M196664</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ok, I only have one level in my example.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Rudy Beuc&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2019 16:06:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8632101#M196664</guid>
      <dc:creator>RudyBeuc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-02T16:06:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8632333#M196665</link>
      <description>If you only have one level then the threshold is 20'.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2019 20:34:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-02T20:34:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8632458#M196666</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yep, that looks about right. Any idea why this is?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;They even got a mysterious reference plane that I can't, well reference, at about 4' off the primary level.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Rudy Beuc&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2019 23:58:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8632458#M196666</guid>
      <dc:creator>RudyBeuc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-02T23:58:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8632592#M196667</link>
      <description>1. No idea.  &lt;BR /&gt;2. What 4' reference plane?  I don't have it.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2019 05:15:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8632592#M196667</guid>
      <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-03T05:15:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: conceptual massing enviroment 3dview properties</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/conceptual-massing-enviroment-3dview-properties/m-p/8632599#M196668</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;1&lt;SPAN style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #666666; font-family: 'Artifakt',Tahoma,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"&gt;. No idea. &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I hate how Revit hides so much of what's going on under the hood to make things seem simple.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #666666; font-family: 'Artifakt',Tahoma,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"&gt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;2. What 4' reference plane? I don't have it. &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #666666; font-family: 'Artifakt',Tahoma,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"&gt;It's not really a reference plane. It doesn't show up in the elevation views. But is does manifest itself as is a reference plane was intersecting the native planes (center front back: Center right left ect...) of the family. Thought this was representing the cut plane of some view, but no.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #666666; font-family: 'Artifakt',Tahoma,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot (112).png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/609225iD4EBD4B7CC92D3B7/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screenshot (112).png" alt="Screenshot (112).png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #666666; font-family: 'Artifakt',Tahoma,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"&gt;Thanks,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #666666; font-family: 'Artifakt',Tahoma,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"&gt;Rudy Beuc&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2019 05:30:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RudyBeuc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-03T05:30:16Z</dc:date>
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