topic Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern? in Revit Architecture Forum

How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern?

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:49:11 GMT

Can anyone point me in the right direction of how to do this?

I am uploading my models into Lumion to render and surface patterns arent visible in Lumion so i need too somehow make a realistic ceiling grid where you can see both the metal grid and the plasterboard ceiling so i can assign materials to both.

To be honest I am very dissapointed that revit doesnt have this feature allready.

Thank-you

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern?

danieleaccardo — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:34:09 GMT

hello, I'm not an expert for lumion software but let's try.

There are in the model other patterns that are visible?

already checked the scale in the material browser?

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:38:06 GMT

You cant see any annotations or surface patterns in lumion. Forget about
lumion though. I just need to now how to make a proper ceiling grid with
both materials assigned to it, plasterboard tiles and the metal grid/
t-bar. Thanks
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Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

danieleaccardo — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:59:49 GMT

Select the ceiling and modify the type changing it to "compound ceiling". Then you can edit the type and click on edit in the construction section. In the new window you can set materials and thickness for structure and finish panels.

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:02:06 GMT

No you cant. You can only change the surface pattern on the ceiling
plasterboard. I ceiling tiles with the metal grid visible so i can render it

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

danieleaccardo — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:49:21 GMT

if your purpose is to render the ceiling, my advice is to use a compound ceiling and go to set the material and search for "ceiling tile".

Once the material is selected, on the right you can find other folders like "graphics" and "appearance" in which you can set your preferences depending on the size of panels you want to place.

I don't remember other solutions with the ceiling function. If you want to try, another option is to use a curtain wall in which you can change the material of the glass panels with your ceiling material and set also all the grid with your preferences

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:02:09 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
No you cant. You can only change the surface pattern on the ceiling
plasterboard. I ceiling tiles with the metal grid visible so i can render it

If you want to see the metal grid then you have to model the metal grid....unless you get a material that already shows a metal grid.

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

ToanDN — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:05:11 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
You cant see any annotations or surface patterns in lumion. Forget about
lumion though. I just need to now how to make a proper ceiling grid with
both materials assigned to it, plasterboard tiles and the metal grid/
t-bar. Thanks
--
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If you want 3d t-bars then model them as a structure framing system or as sloped glazing's mullions. You can even create the entire ceiling a sloped glazing with mullions + panels and forgo the actual ceiling.

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern?

seanlewishhi — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:05:43 GMT

You can make a generic model as a ceiling (use your plaster material) , then set that as you work plane and add a curtain wall. Set the spacing as needed and add the mullions to the size and material. This works in Enscape not sure about Lumion

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern?

JJWGallagher — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:32:32 GMT

Find or make a ceiling tile texture with the grid in it. Lumion should create it's own bump map to give the illusion of depth.

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern?

alex60 — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:32:08 GMT

Hi all, we normally use a slope glazing roof with the grid layout of the ceiling using the mullion profile and the panel with the material of ceiling. See attached image.

Thanks, Alex

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 06:27:06 GMT

Hey thanks, can you give me a bit more of a breakdown how to do this? Eg
what functions to use in revit? Thanks
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Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 06:27:07 GMT

Hey thanks, can you give me a bit more of a breakdown how to do this? Eg
what functions to use in revit? Thanks--
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Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern?

nmarcelis — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:24:19 GMT

2 possibilities, option 1 is the best solution, but a little harder to realise.

Create a Sloped Glazed roof and create new adaptive component families for the ceiling panels and frames.

Create a new level based generic family with extrusions.

If this helped please accept this as a solution.

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

alex60 — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:23:49 GMT

Hi all, there is no need to make adaptive components, with the simple panel of glazing roof you can duplicate it and change the material for ceiling texture. See the attached image where are the steps to make that.

Thanks in advance, Alex

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

JJWGallagher — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:34:05 GMT

I don't understand why so many people actually model a suspended ceiling. It seems like a waste of time and energy. Just put a texture on it, you'd never notice the difference in a render and your working drawings shouldn't show that much detail either.

EDIT: Here's a ceiling from my render, it's a flat plane with good materials and displacement.

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

ToanDN — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:01:16 GMT

Agreed that using material with bump map/displacement is the best option for typical lay-in ceilings. Modeling them is only necessary for geometric/sculpture ceilings.

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

aRcHiTeCt.JM — Mon, 22 Apr 2019 19:50:27 GMT

@JJWGallagher

***EDIT: Here's a ceiling from my render, it's a flat plane with good materials and displacement.

... do you mind sharing the texture, or textures...

.... or even better the model?

... the model as in the picture

... please

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

JJWGallagher — Mon, 22 Apr 2019 20:14:26 GMT

I can't share the model as I made it at work, but I can send you the textures. What program were you hoping to use them in? My render was from 3ds Max with Corona Renderer but I can adjust them to work for whatever you need.

Re: How to do realistic ceiling tiles without a surface pattern

aRcHiTeCt.JM — Mon, 22 Apr 2019 20:29:25 GMT

@JJWGallagher

... the textures, bumps, etc... you were using to get the ceiling looking this way...

... thanks...