topic Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings in Revit Architecture Forum

Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

indiana_j0nes — Wed, 22 May 2019 05:54:21 GMT

Hi,

I am having a situation here, the image below can help explaining.

This is regarding the wall finishes on openings.
In order to have the required finish thickness for insulation at wall openings, I made two layers of finishing with varying thickness, one which wraps at openings and the other doesnt. However I am getting a line in-between the two layers, any ideas how else I can go about this?

Thanking you for your tips..

Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

Ilic.Andrej — Wed, 22 May 2019 09:03:52 GMT

Aaaah , here we go again....

This is one of those crazy problems. Nobody had a perfect solution and everything we tried is kinda a workaround.

Its a good thing that double layer, but I think you cant get rid of the line between those two layers.

Personally, I don't like to wrap walls here. Instead of that, I nest shared generic models into the window families and then join them with the walls. That way, I get a clean presentation. I do the same thing on top of the window. Did you notice that wall layer wrapping at inserts does not apply on the top of a window? Also, the wrapping is not taken into the quantity calculation which forces you to create parts. Luckily, the nested generic model is. But you need to create it as shared family.

There s a smart way to create these kind of windows. These wall interactions can be created in a "master" window family. So, all different window frames should be nested into the window family that controls the interaction with the walls. The thicknesses of the "wrapped" elements should be constrained with instance parameters.

Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

indiana_j0nes — Wed, 22 May 2019 08:58:00 GMT

Actually you are right, that doesnt really help in Sections where u kinda see the finishing.

But I would still leave this post as one without a solution yet, so maybe we can build on to the various workarounds you mention.

Nesting generic within Family is one way to go about, I have it for another project, but was wondering if anything has changed over the years.
The line is still represented as a dashed like even if you overwrite it as a invisible line. Strange right?
Anyway thanks for your reply.

Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

Ilic.Andrej — Wed, 22 May 2019 09:03:23 GMT

maybe you can try to overwrite it with the white line...

Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

ToanDN — Wed, 22 May 2019 16:01:02 GMT

Are they actually two layers of insulation when built?

Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

indiana_j0nes — Thu, 23 May 2019 05:55:47 GMT

No, but I built them as two layers because I wanted a specific thickness of the insulation to be wrapped at openings.

Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

ToanDN — Thu, 23 May 2019 06:21:29 GMT

Are you sure that is how they will actually be built? What kind of insulation that wraps like that?

Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

indiana_j0nes — Thu, 23 May 2019 06:40:56 GMT

My apologies, you are right. It doesnt really wrap, but an insulation of a different thickness is placed neighboring the openings.

Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

ToanDN — Thu, 23 May 2019 20:42:54 GMT

You can use Cut profile tool to get the look.

Re: Multilayer wall with Finish at openings

indiana_j0nes — Mon, 27 May 2019 10:29:14 GMT

Looks neat, however I failed to replicate it, could you possibly share the file with me?

Kind regards,