topic Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern in Revit Architecture Forum

Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 20:46:26 GMT

Hello, hello,

We've noticed a problem here that new lights that are placed on an existing ceiling will create infill panels as expected, but the infill panels won't have the original pattern, in this instance, an 2x2 ACT pattern. Results are in the screenshots. It's important we see the original pattern for our Demo plans.

Is this seriously how this is supposed to react? Why wouldn't it at least get the same pattern as the original ceiling? I don't think I should have to use the Paint tool or Detail Lines to finish this out. Is there something else at play here?

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

ToanDN — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 20:51:32 GMT

Check you Phase Filters and Phase Graphic Overrides. The surface patterns for demo'd items may be turned off.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:00:18 GMT

I checked those already and even reset them but still no patterns shows up.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

ToanDN — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:01:38 GMT

Can you show the view's phase filter and the phase graphic overrides for that filter?

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:07:32 GMT

No pattern overrides besides the color.
I also did this in an empty project, no template and am getting the same results.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

ToanDN — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:14:26 GMT

The material for demo'd is Phase-Demo. Change it to By Category.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:23:45 GMT

I removed the materials for Existing and Demolished but still no pattern showing.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

ToanDN — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:53:14 GMT

Here is what I got. I did not override the pattern, only the color for the illustration.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

Sahay_R — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 21:52:58 GMT

Try adding the pattern in the material to both Background AND Foreground.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 22:10:42 GMT

I've tried adding to the foreground and background and still no luck. The overrides work if I also change the fill pattern, but I only want the original pattern to show as red.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

ToanDN — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 22:12:59 GMT

Can you share that Revit file?

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 22:15:44 GMT

Attached. Thanks for all your help!

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

ToanDN — Mon, 09 Sep 2019 22:29:56 GMT

Ceiling hosted fixture will show the demo'd pattern per Phase graphic overrides. Face based will not. The difference is perhaps Cut Opening versus Void.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

SSStudio — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 23:30:10 GMT

I struggled with this, checking Phase filters, graphic overrides, patterns, material, view template setting, underlay settings, etc.

Then on a hunch I checked the View Range for the Reflected Ceiling Plan (RCP).

The ceiling has a designated Level.

The ceiling object is set to that level.

Top of the view range referenced that level with an Offset of 0' 0".

So I changed the Offset to 0' 1" ... just to make sure the view was actually "seeing" the ceiling object to a sufficient depth.

INSTANTLY resolved with all phases displayed as intended.

Another example of the quirky "zero" behavior by Revit - or rather my continuing path of discovering all Revit's undocumented behaviors, case by case.

Re: Infill panels in existing phase are cutting out ACT pattern

aldo.alvarez73 — Tue, 02 Apr 2024 16:39:37 GMT

Your problem is not the ceiling or the phases. is the light family. replace it wit a non ceiling based light fixture.