topic Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body in Revit Architecture Forum

Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:01:33 GMT

I'm working on bringing our office CAD standards into Revit and I'm having an issue with the body moving with the pointer as the elevation tag is placed around the building. I've messed with check boxes and can't seem to find a way to make it work. Attached are images of the desired appearance in CAD and how they persistently appear in Revit.

Is it possible to have the text and divider line fixed with just the pointer doing the rotating?

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

barthbradley — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:16:17 GMT

You can certainly have different Head TYPES in one Family, each displaying different orientations, but you can't have Instance Parameters whereby you can change the head of one and not another in the Project.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

ToanDN — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:27:34 GMT

Bringing the View Number label inside the body is a losing battle. You would end up with multiple pointer and body types, think about placing elevations for a building with various wall angles.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:48:59 GMT

"Section Head - Open" is an Annotation Symbols family that comes with Revit out of the box. I can rotate this and the labels remain fixed. If anyone insists my request is not possible, can someone at least explain the difference?

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:52:24 GMT

I would like these to behave the same

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

ToanDN — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 18:01:38 GMT

Section tags and Elevation tags behave differently. A section tag only for one view whereas an elevation tag can house multiple views. I have no further explanation than that.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

barthbradley — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 18:02:40 GMT

If you like the behavior of a Section Marker over the behavior of an Elevation Marker, why not use a Section Marker?

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

RDAOU — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:25:23 GMT

Unless I misunderstood something...it should be possible with a 2 types of Building Elevation Tag (single pointers)

The line between the detail ref and sheet ref will need to be selected on placement something similar to what @barthbradley suggested! I placed the Label sheet/detail no both in the Pointer - Always readable w/ fixed rotation (Body will be just the graphics to avoid misalignments)

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

barthbradley — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:21:42 GMT

Yep, that's exactly what I was describing.

Nice presentation.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

barthbradley — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:23:19 GMT

What happened to your screencast?

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

RDAOU — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:28:28 GMT

Im not sure lol it was there a minute ago...if I edit post I see it has been inserted but when I post it doesn't display...they were having issues with screencast on the forum the past week maybe cuz of that

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 01:53:22 GMT

Thank you! This does accomplish what we want graphically. Could you show me how you created the families? I understand what you did just not how you made it possible.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

barthbradley — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:05:02 GMT

Create Family Types.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2015/ENU/Revit-Customize/files/GUID-3F38AE40-023F-415A-AD35-645635D963F8-htm.html

Using Visibility Parameters:

https://www.cad-notes.com/how-to-control-family-element-visibility-with-parameter/

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:03:45 GMT

Sorry let me clarify. I know how to create families I'm just not sure how you created the elevation tag family with the multiple check boxes and so the text remains fixed.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

barthbradley — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:17:23 GMT

The text isn't remaining "affixed". It's two different TYPES in the same family made possible with visibility parameters. You can achieve the same thing with two different families. One Family/Type orients "this" way, the other orients "that" way.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:30:30 GMT

I appreciate that you're trying to be helpful, but I think we're misunderstanding each other. If you know how exactly he made the particular families it'd help to let me know how. Otherwise hopefully the other guy can demonstrate. I'm messing around with visibility parameters and all I just don't exactly know what goes where and how.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

barthbradley — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 02:59:30 GMT

Sorry. Maybe I'm speaking over your head. Are you are familiar with how to create family TYPES and how to control the visibility of elements within a family via visibility parameters? If not, maybe it would be simpler to just create different "dumb" families.

Still, I don't know why you just don't use Sections. Like these pictured here:

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 03:11:38 GMT

I understand visibility parameters. I already said I've been messing around with them. I don't need to be taught how to create custom families or clarity on how to manage visibility parameter settings. I'm just asking for the specifics on how he accomplished what he did. The main reason being no matter what I try, the detail number and sheet number do not want to stay in place. I am aware of the check boxes that say Keep Readable and Fixed Rotation. Still an issue. If I can just see how he accomplished what he did, I'll be at peace.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

barthbradley — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 03:23:23 GMT

Dude, all @RDAOU is doing in his screencast is switching the Elevation TYPE mid-stream. There's no magic happening. He's just choosing a different PREDEFINED Family/Type to place in the View.

Re: Elevation Tag w/ Fixed Labels and Body

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 03:32:19 GMT

What I'm asking for in several different ways is what the predefined parameters within the families are. Please, if you may as you've now began responding rudely, refrain from responding if you are not able to provide the help that I'm asking for.