topic Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design in Revit Architecture Forum

Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Designer"

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:45:41 GMT

I just watched this video from 2018:

My current challenge is to use Revit to add:

(a) A Street (Elm)

(b) A vehicle (Lincoln Continental Presidential Limousine)

with the utmost accuracy to our current model of the Texas School Book Depository:

TSBD from a Satellite

The video above seems like the way to go, right? All those commands are built into the Revit distribution.

What about the plugin, Revit Site Designer? Does this new tool replace the techniques explained in the YouTube tutorial?

TIA,

-Ramon F. Herrera
JFK Numbers
ramon@jfknumbers.org

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

ToanDN — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:57:58 GMT

Cars look expensive and don't even come with a chauffeur.

https://hum3d.com/3d-models/lincoln-cosmopolitan-presidential-limousine-1950/

https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/continental-61-presidential-limousine-3d-model-1350776

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

MostafaElashmawy — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:50:56 GMT

The methods in the video are still valid and are using the Revit built in tools.

Revit site designer provide some pre-made families that are utilised using some tools specialized in road works. but it need some practice till you reach the best result.

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

barthbradley — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:52:39 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Does this new tool replace the technique explained in YouTube?

"Replace" is a good word. It's not an augmentation to the existing platform. It's a different modeling platform within the Revit platform. By that I mean you cannot mix Site Designer elements with Revit-based site elements. But, everything you can do with SD and be done with vanilla Revit.

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:00:21 GMT

@ToanDN wrote:
Car looks expensive.
https://hum3d.com/3d-models/lincoln-cosmopolitan-presidential-limousine-1950/
https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/continental-61-presidential-limousine-3d-model-1350776

There are two models available in Internet shops:

(1) From Russia and Hum3D:

Lincoln Continental X-100 1961 3D model

Anybody with 75 bucks can get it. I have all the file formats in the project's website

See it in action here:

PBS NOVA Cold Case JFK: Limo Alone

(2) From Ford Motors Company and Turbo Squid:

Lincoln Continental 61 Presidential Limousine

As seen below, the 104 bucks alone is not enough:

You need permission by Ford

I have both models in many file formats here:

SS-100-X Limo, Russian Version and American Version

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

ToanDN — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:07:04 GMT

I wouldn't put those models on a website. You purchased them for your use, not for distributing to others, unless whoever sold them to you don't care.

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:08:39 GMT

@ToanDN wrote:
Cars look expensive [...]

The original one was sold by Ford Motors Corporation to the US Secret Service for $1.

Reference images here:

Lincoln Continental Presidential Limo

It is currently in the Henry Ford Museum, Dearborn, Michigan.

Presidential Vehicles at the Henry Ford Museum

As a gift of appreciation for her help, I gave the curator 3D models.

-Ramon

JFK Numbers

ramon@jfknumbers.org

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:23:59 GMT

@ToanDN wrote:
I wouldn't put those models on a website. You purchased them for your use, not for distributing to others, unless whoever sold them to you don't care.

I have a deal with Hum3D. The measurements, precise color and middle jump seats were added by the contribution of my partner Paul Ernst, from the Netherlands.

Work by Paul Ernest

The real measurements are unknown, since for some reason the National Archives guard the blueprints from Ford as a state secret.

IOW: Every simulation, documentary ever done is fraudulent, the authors are lying.

"Millions were watching and nobody saw anything"

-Ramon

JFK Numbers

All they give is an EMPTY envelop.

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

ToanDN — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:27:10 GMT

Ford must have had the record of what they sent.

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:48:37 GMT

@ToanDN wrote:
Ford must have had the record of what they sent.

Not really. The builder who did the modifications was subcontracted by Ford:

O'Gara-Hess & Eisenhardt Armoring Company

they HAD the blueprints for a while. After years of non-response I contacted Richie Allen, spokesperson for O'Gara-Hess :

"Yes, Mr. Herrera, we built it. It was more than 50 years ago. No, we do not have the blueprints anymore"

[After some stubborn insistence]

"Mr. Herrera, all I am going to say is that the government has the property and possession of those blueprints"

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

ramon@jfknumbers

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

ToanDN — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:49:18 GMT

Should have talked with Ted Cruz in 2016. He could have helped you then. It is too late now.

Re: Relationship between "Revit Site Plan" and "Revit Site Design

Anonymous — Sun, 19 Jan 2020 18:17:44 GMT

@ToanDN wrote:
I wouldn't put those models on a website. You purchased them for your use, not for distributing to others, unless whoever sold them to you don't care.

Let me share a little secret. If you are involved with this investigation, you can pretty much get away with murder. Some did it in 1963, and as an obvious counterpart, I can do it in 2020. Think about it.

One of several examples: I hacked the website of the National Archives, spent a sleepless summer in 2015 making 319,106 automated queries to their site:

This is the website controlled by Them The Bureaucrats

I created a perfect clone of that website, with a much superior front end which provides confidential information:

This is the website owned and controlled by We The People

See my clarifying comment:

Owned by We The People

Long story short, after I announced the completion of my unsolicited summer internship at the National Archives in several JFK boards, the NARA site was taken offline for several days. When it returned it had better protection. Every time the phone/door rang I was convinced it was the FBI, something that I received with a mix of apprehension and satisfaction ("Finally! I would be able to tell people what I had discovered"). The Texas ACLU offered to defend me. I contacted several journalists (expert Bryan Bender from the Boston Globe and Politico, etc) with the news.

What happened?

Absolutely nothing. The MSM would not touch that issue with a proverbial long pole.

Therefore, the chances of little ole' me getting in trouble for distributing the two Limo models of dubious accuracy to volunteer participants are very slim. I'll take my chances. They are here:

http://www.dealey-plaza.org/this-government-as-promised/kennedy-limo/

-Ramon F. Herrera
JFK Numbers
ramon@jfknumbers.org