topic Re: Handrail in Revit Architecture Forum

Handrail

oladamilola — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:08:07 GMT

Hi All,

Does anyone know a workaround on how to make handrails in Revit where the Upper Rail isn't angled like the lower rail. Please see attached. I'm currently stuck having to use two different Handrails to achieve this

Thanks

Re: Handrail

martijn_pater — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:55:50 GMT

One option is to model it in-place anyway...or just as generic family... both in railing category ofcourse.

Re: Handrail

oladamilola — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 11:21:26 GMT

Model-In Place is a nice option but then I would have to go through the stress of always editing it whenever the stairs get edited.

How does the generic family work in this case though ?

Re: Handrail

martijn_pater — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:34:22 GMT

I guess those are more or less the same really, you could add parameters in the family for riser/runner.
... Alternatively you could use a curtain wall perhaps.

(edit: still thinking on how you could do it with railing though)

Re: Handrail

hmunsell — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:12:18 GMT

i had to do something like that for a helicopter pad (opposite though). the railing cant stick up past the pad height. i used a Railing terminator, i ran the tailing to a cretin height and placed the terminator.

in reality though it is still a static family so you will have the same issues as a In-place or Generic family as @martijn_pater suggests. just another option that will act as part of the railing.

Re: Handrail

MostafaElashmawy — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 18:01:54 GMT

Select the handrail >> edit path >> select the line, in the option bar select flat and custom then add the height of the handrail measured from the highest point.

Re: Handrail

ToanDN — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 18:49:48 GMT

Like this?

Re: Handrail

martijn_pater — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 19:11:32 GMT

This should get you there. Set top railing to nescessary height, edit path, click path and set slope to flat.

I thought this topic might be interesting to you aswell on balusters. You could also use termination mentioned above I think to create the termination at top of the stairs.

Re: Handrail

oladamilola — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 19:06:19 GMT

Yes Exactly like this. I just would need to check if it fits when i'm back to work tomorrow. Thanks a lot

Re: Handrail

oladamilola — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 19:21:32 GMT

Update. In my case the balustrades arent attached to the tread rather the whole handrail is attached to the side of the stairs. This means i have a rail on the lower part running parallel to the stairs.

Re: Handrail

martijn_pater — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 19:32:38 GMT

That's what the part 2 in my reply was about aswell... been wrecking my brain on that all day f&%:) was pretty sure it could be done... anyway... edit: note, just put the same profile for bottom/top rail in there not like below example 🙂

Re: Handrail

oladamilola — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:06:39 GMT

Thanks. You're amazing. Unfortunately either i'm missing a step or something. The bottom rail refuses to angle in my case. Could you maybe attach your Revit sample file so I could see what mistake i'm making. If that wouldnt be asking too much

Re: Handrail

ToanDN — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:18:36 GMT

@oladamilola wrote:

Update. In my case the balustrades arent attached to the tread rather the whole handrail is attached to the side of the stairs. This means i have a rail on the lower part running parallel to the stairs.

Like this?

Re: Handrail

oladamilola — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:24:49 GMT

More or Less Yes. This does it. But in your solution you seem to have two different railings. I'm trying to cut down to just one. This would save me a bit of stress on the project. But your solution works as well

Re: Handrail

ToanDN — Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:32:36 GMT

Okay here is just a single railing.

Re: Handrail

martijn_pater — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 08:30:25 GMT

Ah, stringer and edited toprail... that makes sense. But if you set the height in the top rail though instead of custom for the line(s, if you draw the landing also) you don't have to set custom height for those seperately.

Re: Handrail

oladamilola — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 09:00:40 GMT

Yes. That makes it easier to edit moving forward as the height can then be controlled from the family.

How were you able to have a different profile for the stringer and for the upper rail in your example ?

Whenever i change the profile, both my upper rail and stringer changes as well.

Re: Handrail

martijn_pater — Wed, 22 Jan 2020 10:09:34 GMT

I linked to this topic in earlier post, so I edited the baluster and used another profile there. Only works on the stairs though, you'd have to draw the landing seperate again with different baluster. So the stringer placement with the top rail edit is a lot easier...