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Creating a library of my families

J_DuranH2JCU — Thu, 08 Aug 2024 16:38:14 GMT

I have to model a bunch of lighting fixtures with different sizes, lighting options, etc. and want to put them all in a single library. Would the best way be to compact these be to model them out as a family and create a library (if so, how) or model them out regularly and create a library (if so, how). I'm new to Revit and need to figure out the best way to do this. Any suggestions help.

Re: Creating a library of my families

barthbradley — Thu, 08 Aug 2024 17:46:38 GMT

Not sure what the question is. Saving a Revit rfa file is no different that saving any other file. Why don't you just save your custom content to the stock Revit Content Library Folder? It's pretty decently structured.

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/tsarticles/ts/24e0wvcXEokcfVbvUZtezv.html

Re: Creating a library of my families

ToanDN — Thu, 08 Aug 2024 17:03:37 GMT

If you have already created different families then just save them in a folder and insert them in projects when needed. No good reason to make them into one family.

Re: Creating a library of my families

J_DuranH2JCU — Thu, 08 Aug 2024 20:53:58 GMT

I've created a set of lighting fixtures to upload to a website for people to download. I want them to download the fixtures and be able to get all the variants within the single download, rather than having to download all the fixtures at once. Is it possible to create a library that includes all the fixtures and that can also be downloaded? Not sure if that makes more sense.

Re: Creating a library of my families

barthbradley — Thu, 08 Aug 2024 21:00:35 GMT

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2024/ENU/?guid=GUID-FFA71D72-D4C5-416D-BF65-1757657C3CE9

Re: Creating a library of my families

jad447 — Thu, 08 Aug 2024 22:21:27 GMT

I'm responding from my personal account.

I created a different family for each variation of the fixture. Can these be compiled into a catalog? Or should each variation be created within the same family? Ex. table for 4,6 and 8 people, are all in seperate family files, can these be merged as a single family to create a catalog, or should they stay as seprate families and added into a catalog?

Re: Creating a library of my families

ToanDN — Thu, 08 Aug 2024 23:18:20 GMT

A catalog is associated with one family. If you already create multiple families then no.

Re: Creating a library of my families

HVAC-Novice — Fri, 09 Aug 2024 01:26:30 GMT

Maybe explain exactly what you mean in Revit terms?

If by variation of a fixture you mean just a slightly different model# (different lumen package, different length of the same fixture, or trim color), you should have the fixture be one FAMILY and have each variation be a TYPE of that family. the user then downloads that family and uses the types they need.

And it isn't clear what a "library is here. Do you mean a collection of all the fixtures you use?

Maybe this isn't related to your questions. but i store all my families in a folder tree. Top elevel are Revit Family categories. Next level are type of fixture (Linear recessed, panel recessed etc.). the next level has the folders for each fixture model in that category (i.e. i use thre different linear recessed fixtures). that folder for one fixture family includes the ies-files, the images, the cut sheets, instructions and the family (and the family has all the types). Only one family per fixture and the variations are "types".

Re: Creating a library of my families

constantin.stroescu — Fri, 09 Aug 2024 06:25:21 GMT

I use to make my own libraries as Revit files (rather big Files) and then from there to use Copy/Paste to insert the chosen Family (Families) into my current Project File....

These Template Files (that contain only selected Families) have to be completed permanently...so to be of a real use in practice,,,

Re: Creating a library of my families

azad.Nanva — Mon, 12 Aug 2024 09:54:06 GMT

save the family in simple Template:

Re: Creating a library of my families

vitorbortoncello — Mon, 12 Aug 2024 20:25:57 GMT

I believe it's crucial to maintain both a family showroom and a dedicated library folder for these families. After creating the family template, ensure you save it as a Library Family in the appropriate folder for easy access and organization.

Re: Creating a library of my families

J_DuranH2JCU — Tue, 13 Aug 2024 15:24:56 GMT

I want to create a single lighting fixture and then in the Properties drop down menu (model group) = I want to be able to change the IES files for that fixture. I don't know a ton of Revit, so I don't know if it's possible to change the light source definition within a single family.

Re: Creating a library of my families

SteveKStafford — Tue, 13 Aug 2024 20:26:37 GMT

Yes, if you use the Photometric Web option for the lighting source a parameter called Photometric Web File is a type parameter that can be directed to a specific file for each type. You'll have to make sure people can download the IES files so their system will be able to use them.

You should keep each family limited to just the range of possible options that one fixture provides rather than attempting to create a family that represents multiple fixtures...for simplicity and user's sanity. If a fixture has more than 5-10 options then a type catalog will allow people to only load the fixture model type they really want instead of every variation when they only need a couple.

Re: Creating a library of my families

J_DuranH2JCU — Tue, 13 Aug 2024 20:52:24 GMT

Thank you! If it's a single fixture, and the IES files is already embedded within my file, do I still have to provide the IES separately?

Re: Creating a library of my families

HVAC-Novice — Tue, 13 Aug 2024 21:30:12 GMT

It depends...

If they use Revit or a Revit plugin for lighting design, the ies file in the family is sufficient. they only need the ies files separately if they need to create more types. I don't think there is a way to extract ies files from a family.

If they use a standalone lighting software, they will need the separate ies files.

Re: Creating a library of my families

J_DuranH2JCU — Wed, 14 Aug 2024 12:12:49 GMT

Awesome, thank you