topic Re: Empty system panel download in Revit Architecture Forum

Empty system panel download

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:08:25 GMT

I require a empty system panel, and it appears this hasn't been available int he library since 2017, would it be possible to get a download or is there a work around? Thanks!

Re: Empty system panel download

hmunsell — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 13:03:25 GMT

what do yo mean by Empty System Panel?

C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\RVT 2020\Libraries\US Imperial\Electrical\Architectural\Electrical Power\Distribution\Electrical Panel.rfa ?

Re: Empty system panel download

barthbradley — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:01:05 GMT

It would be impossible for the Empty System Panel to be missing from the Project. If you are not seeing any TYPES listed under Empty System Panel, right-click on it and press "New Type".

Re: Empty system panel download

hmunsell — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:04:22 GMT

LOL, i was helping someone out earlier with electrical issues so when i saw System Panel my brain automatically thought electrical. didn't even thing Curtain Panel.

🤣

Re: Empty system panel download

barthbradley — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:10:16 GMT

Actually, I'm not so sure I answered the OP's question. Maybe you're right.

Re: Empty system panel download

ennujozlagam — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 03:57:55 GMT

try this edit your system panel family like screenshot below delete the panel and saveas as empty system family and load into your project and see if helps. thanks

Re: Empty system panel download

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:33:34 GMT

Sorry I should have made the question a bit clearer. Basically I'm using curtain walling to create a timber screen, so naturally I would just set the curtain panel to empty, however the the revits since 2017 haven't included a system panel - empty they just include a curtain panel - empty system panel. The curtain panel - empty system panel wont work on any other panel shape other than rectangular from experience. this link may explain it better? https://revitforum.org/showthread.php/30744-Empty-System-Panel-is-missing-(Revit-2017)?p=169398

The image below is the timber screen I'm trying to model, and the angle at the top means the panel cannot be empty and is instead either the solid or glazed by default.

Re: Empty system panel download

bin — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:43:53 GMT

You can try Beam System

Re: Empty system panel download

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:54:18 GMT

Awesome thankyou! Ill give that a go!

Re: Empty system panel download

bin — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:05:41 GMT

https://youtu.be/APMlVfRn810

Here's a quick video for you.

Re: Empty system panel download

barthbradley — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 22:44:53 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Sorry I should have made the question a bit clearer. Basically I'm using curtain walling to create a timber screen, so naturally I would just set the curtain panel to empty, however the the revits since 2017 haven't included a system panel - empty they just include a curtain panel - empty system panel. The curtain panel - empty system panel wont work on any other panel shape other than rectangular from experience. this link may explain it better? https://revitforum.org/showthread.php/30744-Empty-System-Panel-is-missing-(Revit-2017)?p=169398

The image below is the timber screen I'm trying to model, and the angle at the top means the panel cannot be empty and is instead either the solid or glazed by default.

I have no idea what you are talking about when you say "empty system panel wont work on any other panel shape other than rectangular from experience."

Re: Empty system panel download

barthbradley — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 22:58:41 GMT

...here's 96 more for you:

Re: Empty system panel download

barthbradley — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:31:31 GMT

...if the construction is stick-framed, wouldn't there be blankets between the studs?

😉

Re: Empty system panel download

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 11:08:20 GMT

Hi,

I agree you can make non rectangular panels, but the panels you have shown are glazed, in my experience if you try to change one of those panels to empty (hence empty system panel) it wont work in the non rectangular shapes.

Re: Empty system panel download

barthbradley — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:07:45 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
...in my experience...

Listen and learn, @Anonymous: those 184 panels shown highlighted (e.g. selected) in Message 11 and 12 are EMPTY SYSTEM PANELS. Look at their Properties. And, because they are EMPTY SYSTEM PANELS, they cannot possibly be anything other than EMPTY (e.g. zip, nada, zilch). They are only visible in the screenshots because they are selected via "Select All Instances:Visible in View". The semi-transparent blushish color is the SELECTION color (not "glazing") that is assigned through OPTIONS.

Re: Empty system panel download

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Aug 2021 09:32:03 GMT

This is a link to a video that quickly shows you how to make one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPXVvrnjoRU

Re: Empty system panel download

ToanDN — Tue, 10 Aug 2021 19:13:09 GMT

@Anonymous

That video you posted is NOT for creating the empty SYSTEM panel (name it Empty System Panel does not make it so), just a loadable empty curtain wall panel. They are fundamentally different.

A loadable empty panel family as sbown in that video only works with rectanglinear shapes, where as the Empty System Panel works with any shapes.

The only way to get the Empty System Panel to a project that does not have one is via Transfer Project Standards from a project/ template as shown earlier in the thread.

We appreciate your attempt to contribute but please be carefully so that you will not be spreading false information for others, especially new users.