topic drawing order in Revit Architecture Forum

drawing order

alberto.proserpio — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:21:29 GMT

Hi,

I am having a problem about the way Revit manages overlapping objects:

I am having a wall on a structural grid and with a shelves component (aligned face-to-face to the wall).

The problem is that I would like to "send back" the structural grid (grey dashed lines) and the shelves (as you can see, the walls lines are thinner there, because they stand "behind" the shelves).

Is there a way to manage what object in front of the other? (something like "drawing order" in autocad)
I would like to have all cut wall to have the priority on everything.

Re: drawing order

Ahmed_M_Heteba — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 12:21:20 GMT

Unfortunately There is no draw order command in revit.

you can use override graphics or line work or even transparency to manage the look you need.

Re: drawing order

alberto.proserpio — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 14:58:26 GMT

Hi, Thanks for your reply.
But to me, does not work.

I have a furniture with white solid hatch inside. so, so solve it, i need to somehow "sendtofront" walls.

If not the problem will always persists.

Re: drawing order

barthbradley — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:35:14 GMT

I'm not clear what the problem is. Your screenshot looks fine to me. What should I be noticing? What am I missing?

Re: drawing order

alberto.proserpio — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 04:57:58 GMT

Hi,

What is wrong is that, if you zoom in, you see that grid lines (grey) are passing in front of the walls. As well, on the corner, a furniture (thinner outline with white hatch) passes in front of walls, and the wall's outline looks thinner. It doesn't look nice when printed.

I'm looking for a way to manage what stays in front of what...

Re: drawing order

barthbradley — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 05:54:10 GMT

Datums are always at the detail plane of the view (the plane that is closest to you as you look at the view).

Re: drawing order

syman2000 — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 06:02:46 GMT

Detail, grids, level and annotation will always be on top of the model. There is no way to draworder the model object to the front. A lot of Revit user accept this limitation and get away from AutoCAD old habits.

Re: drawing order

alberto.proserpio — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 06:07:17 GMT

Hi, Thanks Syman.

I could accept that grids and dimension are kind of fixed. The problem I can not accept is with furniture...

Re: drawing order

barthbradley — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 06:34:47 GMT

@alberto.proserpio wrote:

I could accept that grids and dimension are kind of fixed. The problem I can not accept is with furniture...

So, what's the game plan? Not use Revit?

You know, there are some things you can try- like changing the Grid's Center Segment from Continuous.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/ENU/Revit-Model/files/GUID-B439B9FB-E672-4A26-B239-F254610A690B-htm.html#:~:text=Modify%20grid%20lines%2C%20such%20as,all%20instances%20in%20the%20project.

I'll add, that if Section Lines become a bother, they have a similar thing to the Grid's Center Segment. Break.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-lt/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2018/ENU/RevitLT-DocumentPresent/files/GUID-2B772E24-077A-46EF-BDB7-D5486D798109-htm.html

Re: drawing order

syman2000 — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 06:20:38 GMT

I know what you mean. However if you have masking in your family, it will show on top of the wall. Here is an example

Re: drawing order

barthbradley — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:45:18 GMT

Well, will these Grid Line Type Properties keep you from going over to the Dark Side -- or have we lost you already?

😉

Re: drawing order

alberto.proserpio — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:42:43 GMT

Thanks, what do you mean with "masking"?

Re: drawing order

nunc_ceramiste — Wed, 18 Jun 2025 18:38:51 GMT

Hello Alberto,

How was your shelf modelled ?

If it is a 3D object within a family, then I have a solution for you.

Open your shelf family, go to the family parameters, and allow cutting in views.

Does it work ?

Re: drawing order

RSomppi — Thu, 19 Jun 2025 10:43:45 GMT

Go by the old Revit Mantra. Model it the way it will be built. Put a small offset in the family. You just need enough to get past the lineweight of the walls. The furniture won't be that close to the wall anyway.