topic Re: Smart generic annotation family issues in Revit Architecture Forum

Smart generic annotation family issues

skyeg321 — Wed, 28 Aug 2024 21:39:01 GMT

We are trying to create a "smart" annotation that carries lots of information about the finishes we are pointing out. This annotation will be an oval on plan but the box with all the information could be toggleable to show so that we can place all these boxes on sheet and display the info how we want to. Trouble is that once we created the togglable box it messed up the leader and now the leader does not come out of the annotation. Does anyone know of a fix?

I know people will say to just use a note block to schedule. Problem is we want to show an image of the finish, and Revit will not let us add images to these annotations within the project. Only in the family editor. Any ideas?

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

barthbradley — Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:07:57 GMT

Not sure what you mean about images not showing. In the screenshot below, I'm showing a Generic Annotation (the OOTB North Arrow 2.rfa) on Level 1 Plan View, and next to that View is a Note Block Schedule for the North Arrow 2 GA that shows the Image I've assigned to it.

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

skyeg321 — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 00:41:49 GMT

Did you assign the image in the family editor? Or in your project? When I tested it I could only add images within the family editor, but when I brought the symbol into the project, I could not duplicate the type and then add a new image for the new type.

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

barthbradley — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 00:45:03 GMT

@skyeg321 wrote:
Did you assign the image in the family editor? Or in your project?

Either way will work.

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

ToanDN — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 01:43:55 GMT

@skyeg321 wrote:
Did you assign the image in the family editor? Or in your project? When I tested it I could only add images within the family editor, but when I brought the symbol into the project, I could not duplicate the type and then add a new image for the new type.

Use instance images instead of type images if you want to show them in a schedule.

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

handjonathan — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 13:19:28 GMT

Hi @skyeg321

Thanks a lot for posting your question to the forums!   Have the solutions suggested by @barthbradley @ToanDN helped with your issue?
 
We look forward to hearing back from you with more information so we can help you as a community! 

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

skyeg321 — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 17:12:26 GMT

Hi guys,

@barthbradley I am not able to change the image from within the project. I can only do so within the family editor. I'm attaching the test family.

@ToanDN I cannot get the image parameter to be an instance parameter as that option is greyed out. I would want this to be a type parameter anyway.

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

TripleM-Dev.net — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 17:56:22 GMT

Hi @skyeg321,

Regarding the Leader start point on a Generic Annotation (I assume ""smart" annotation" = Generic Annotation?)

The leader starts at the midpoint of the Generic Annotation family content like lines, even if they are invisible.

Make sure te resize / move them if turned invisible. As far as I know Text elements don't effect this

Below a sample of a GA family, with a constraint on the line end

Generic Annotation Family

Below the family in the project.

1) all on, leader sits in middle of line

2) Line turned off (no change made to length), leaders still in same position

3) Line turned off and length set to 10 (same as above section), now the leader is in the middle of that line (and simulates like it's in the center of the text. Ps. with this trick you can control the startpoint of the leader, let it begin on top op text etc..

Generic Annotation in project with different settings to control leader position

- Michel

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

barthbradley — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 20:01:19 GMT

I'm not clear what you are after, but if you want the Image as a Instance Parameter, then add an Image Parameter in the Note Block Schedule.

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

skyeg321 — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 21:06:29 GMT

@TripleM-Dev.net Fantastic! We are one step closer but still have issues. If you look at the screenshot below, I was able to associate the lines to reference lines in the family and make those lines all collapse down into a tiny box when the oval is set to visible. But there are still leader line issues. As you can see they leave a gap above the masking region. The gap moves up if I move the ellipse up. I can't understand why. Deleting the ellipse does not help and the gap remains. I cannot figure this one out...

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

skyeg321 — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 21:10:22 GMT

@barthbradley Sorry I know this thread has gotten complicated. Your solution is a good note block solution but we are now moving away from that in favor of these cards that people manually stack.

Re: Smart generic annotation family issues

TripleM-Dev.net — Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:01:05 GMT

Can you share the Family?

Maybe a nested family, or the arc is handled different/or 'spline' handle?