topic Re: Scope box section visibility in Revit Architecture Forum

Scope box section visibility

martijn_pater — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 09:38:12 GMT

Just something I've been wondering about lately. Does anyone know why scope box visibility does not affect section annotations which have been associated to it...? Think it could be useful...

Re: Scope box section visibility

_Vijay — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:05:16 GMT

You can turn off while you priting in printing setup.

Re: Scope box section visibility

martijn_pater — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:36:21 GMT

@_VijayLet me clarify. Note: this is expected behavior based on descriptions etc., just wondering why it is the way it is...

Scope box visibility settings

Re: Scope box section visibility

_Vijay — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:52:07 GMT

Consider you have big size plan. So you can not show in one sheet, in that case you separate part wise using scopbox as per project need.

Re: Scope box section visibility

_Vijay — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:55:32 GMT

For better clarification..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_jgIakD-pU

Re: Scope box section visibility

martijn_pater — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 11:04:10 GMT

@_Vijay I know what it is for. I don't think you understand the question, I wasn't asking how scope boxes work, so let me rephrase: Why do scope box visibility settings for a view have no effect on sections associated to it (just grids/levels/refplanes...)

It doesn't make sense to me that it does not control section visibility aswell for sections associated to it.

Re: Scope box section visibility

ToanDN — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 11:13:29 GMT

I thought scope box visibility is meant to show or hide it in certain view. It has nothing to do with cropping applicable elements.

Re: Scope box section visibility

martijn_pater — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 11:45:22 GMT

Yes correct, show/hide it in a certain view. "It" being grids/levels/refplanes, why not sections? The question is not so much about cropping really, let me try and think of a situation to explain what I mean. It's not related to something I'm currently working on fyi, just a question in general.

Re: Scope box section visibility

martijn_pater — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:26:36 GMT

Well, not sure if this actually says more then the previous image. But anyway, so I have three scope boxes here where I've associated a section to the third and hidden the scope box in view, imho if I hide that scope box it would be useful if it hides the section with it aswell so you can make cutouts this way for part of a building for example...

Quick example

And on another note: I think it would be useful if scope boxes are set to invisible by default for newly created views...

Re: Scope box section visibility

Martijn.Pater — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 08:47:22 GMT

*bump* as unresolved versions 2020/2021/2022, scope box visibility states for associated sections.

Scope boxes are automatically visible in 3d views and other views where they intersect the view cut plane.
The current state is shown in the Automatic Visibility column. Associated datums are visible in 2d views where their scope box is visible.
Use the override column to change the visibility of a scope box and its associated references in individual views.

Why would it affect associated levels, horizontal plan cut view if you will, and not its associated sections, aka vertical cut views. Maybe I'm missing something. Perhaps it's just me thinking there should be at least one proper method of controlling visibility throughout an entire project, not messing about with filters in view templates or whatever...

Re: Scope box section visibility

Eatoughls — Fri, 28 Mar 2025 00:50:54 GMT

Yes, I need this too. I have the same sections for Architectural and Structural but I do not want both section references displayed and was hoping to just assign a scope box but it didn't work! It makes sense if you could use the scope boxes that way because hiding and unhiding is tedious.

And I would also like to be able to set the default to be invisible or visible each time I make a new scope box.