topic Re: Selecting only elements from active workset in Revit Architecture Forum

Selecting only elements from active workset

Liviu.s — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 05:30:02 GMT

hello,

we are working on a project with many consultants, each consultant works on a different workset.

the problem is that a consultant wants to select objects only in his active workset and he cant do it.

editable only option is not good enough since its canceled after every action.

is there an option to select elements only from active workset? or another workaround? (without locking objects from other worksets).

thanks

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

martijn_pater — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 07:07:09 GMT

You could make a view with other worksets hidden in VG...

HERE is a topic on it on the idea's forum.

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

Liviu.s — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 07:10:12 GMT

Well it isn't a good solution because other consultants need to see the architect's workset elements in their views.

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

constantin.stroescu — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:07:10 GMT

Use Selection Sets:

from VGO >Worksets > Hide everything except the desired Workset
from Manage>Selection>Save - choose an appropriate name for the selection- the name of the Workset in our case
in any View you can use Manage > Selection>Load to select the saved selection...

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

martijn_pater — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:13:14 GMT

@Liviu.s wrote:
...their views.

Different views, different VG settings... (so not with view template). That wouldn't work?

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

constantin.stroescu — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 11:55:41 GMT

And why don't you use Linked Files...it looks to be the most appropriate solution.

The consultants will work on their own files , that will be linked in your file and your file will be linked as Overlay in their file. A dedicated Workset will be created for the Linked files...

An workaround , if your work all in only one file , could be to use :Grey inactive Workset graphics with a very light Halftone , so to show graphically which is the active Workset..

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

Liviu.s — Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:55:02 GMT

we dont want to use linked models because we want all the sheets, information and objects in one model.

greying out the non-active worksets wont help because i will be still be able to choose them on dragging.

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

Liviu.s — Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:56:07 GMT

this is getting close, but still wont help because i will be able to choose the whole workset and not some elements by dragging the mouse.

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

Mohamed-Nassar — Sun, 18 Oct 2020 16:19:53 GMT

sure u can open this works set only and select all elements and make save selection then save every time new elements to this selection

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

Liviu.s — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 05:12:34 GMT

Thank you for the answer, but i'll give an example for the scenario i want to happen:

a consultant wants to cross-select elements from the active workset without touching other worksets.

if i save selection it will select all the items from the active workset, i want more flexibility (if possible) on selecting with cross-select.

i still didn't get the right solution, i hope there is a right solution 😞

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

martijn_pater — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 07:50:17 GMT

If you don't want to create some dedicated views for the individual worksets you could enable temporary view properties and do as suggested before, see post#4 among others. You can preset some view templates with the workset you want to see, select and then restore view properties. And also once you have created a selection set you could select that, press HI to isolate the (selected) elements from the workset instantly.

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

Liviu.s — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 07:55:16 GMT

but if i isolate elements, i wont be able to see the other worksets.

for example HVAC consultants wants to move his units and ducts, but he needs to move it according to the new architecture layout (on other workset), he wont be able to see the architecture if he isolates his ducts and units.

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

martijn_pater — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:27:21 GMT

Using isolate is more or less for selection purposes and/or creating selection sets in that scenario. If you're working with different disciplines you would use linked (copy of) file of your consultant on it's own workset. Under select dropdown you can uncheck select links and then the person working on it won't be able to select or move those. Or pin them.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/getting-started/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/ENU/Revit-GetStarted/files/GUID-756F6241-C5D8-48D5-B703-9363E8C8FD65-htm.html

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

RobDraw — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:47:43 GMT

I think you are out of luck for an easy solution. It's time to consider other options or train the team to relinquish ownership frequently.

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

Liviu.s — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:52:29 GMT

the only solution there is right now is using links/pin objects from other worksets , which aren't usable options.

relenquish wont help, i want to prevent HVAC consultant from moving ARCH elements(but still seeing them).

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

RobDraw — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:59:52 GMT

@Liviu.s wrote:
i want to prevent HVAC consultant from moving ARCH elements(but still seeing them).

That is a workflow (OIE) problem that cannot be overcome with the program. There are certain basic protocols that absolutely need to be followed or the project suffers. Time for some basic training for the individual(s).

Re: Selecting only elements from active workset

martijn_pater — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:05:11 GMT

...if checking out the workset doesn't work for you, maybe put those architectural elements in a design option.