topic Re: Wall Join in Revit Architecture Forum

Wall Join

jfjacques — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 03:53:36 GMT

How can I properly join the walls in the attached file ?

The insulation and the additional "half-stud" layer should rap around the inside. The concrete should be continuous.

The bottom vertical wall, should only be able to go into the studs,

The top vertical wall connects with the concrete.

Wall functions, wrapping, join order and wall join don't seem to cut it.

Re: Wall Join

syman2000 — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 06:21:18 GMT

You have to make the interior wall and concrete wall as separate and then use join geometry to join them both together. See attached for idea.

Re: Wall Join

Mohamed-Nassar — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 07:30:26 GMT

https://revitpure.com/blog/8-tips-to-understand-revit-wall-joins

this will help you

Re: Wall Join

jfjacques — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 14:00:16 GMT

Thanks, I was hoping this wasn't the simplest workaround, but works pretty cleanly.

Thanks again.

Re: Wall Join

jfjacques — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 14:01:16 GMT

Look at the file, there's nothing in the tutorial that addresses the issue.

Re: Wall Join

jfjacques — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 15:06:29 GMT

This is a painful way of moving forward, I keep having issues.

For one, the bottom wall interrupts the styrorail wall permanently flow - which a wall usually doesn't do.

This is a painful way of moving forward, I keep having issues.

For one, the bottom wall interrupts the top flow - which a wall usually doesn't do.

Second, I want to disjoin the this bottom wall as a workaround but the "T" is nowhere to be found, why?

Thirdly, unless I'm mistaken, these smaller walls never join properly with full walls at corners, other than by switching walls during a straight run, which is more work, is there a way of joining 2 small walls with 1 full wall?

I would like to add pictures but the website is not allowing me to do so.

Re: Wall Join

syman2000 — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 15:55:23 GMT

The edit profile condition makes it difficult to clean. I usually have issue with it because of the unpredictability. This corner conditions have short return of 3 1/4" which make it difficult for Revit to clean properly.

Your alternative is to reset the wall profile and use alternative like floor as footing to mitigate the joining issue. Have the wall attached to the base of the floor.

Re: Wall Join

jfjacques — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 17:17:53 GMT

So the footings are causing the issue here?

Had no idea.

Thanks

Re: Wall Join

jfjacques — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 17:27:51 GMT

With this wall condition I seem to be unable to join the floor slab to the footing.

I get the following error message

Re: Wall Join

jfjacques — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 17:47:54 GMT

I need to hide this wall.

but when I do the insulation shifts as below, - again I'm not deleting it, I'm just hiding it.

what's going on, why would hiding something change the structure of the wall?

Re: Wall Join

syman2000 — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 22:05:17 GMT

@jfjacques wrote:
With this wall condition I seem to be unable to join the floor slab to the footing.

I get the following error message

Check and see if the materials are the same. You should use join geometry and not cut geometry.

Re: Wall Join

syman2000 — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 22:06:59 GMT

@jfjacques wrote:
I need to hide this wall.
but when I do the insulation shifts as below, - again I'm not deleting it, I'm just hiding it.

what's going on, why would hiding something change the structure of the wall?

Revit wall join can be very annoying. This is why I use the disallow join for the wall that run perpendicular to the insulated wall.