topic Re: dealing with design options in Revit Architecture Forum

dealing with design options

rclement — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 15:12:23 GMT

ok im following the book commercial design using revit 2019

chapter dealing with deign options i had no problem with thye curtain wall with small and large glass pieces

seems changingh the roof was another thing

i copied over the tings necessary so i can change the roof but somewhere i got lost along the line

wonder if anyone can give my tips. books seems to get confusing at this point

the roof doesnt change to accomodate the curved roof

u have to edit it to trim roof to curve also to attach wall to curved roof but i get error

attached is model

Re: dealing with design options

barthbradley — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:13:20 GMT

You need to Copy those 3 Walls to the Clipboard and Paste them "Aligned to the Same Place" into the Atrium Roof Option 2.

Re: dealing with design options

rclement — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:42:34 GMT

i read that but from where cant use the main model because its frozen

neither curtain wall large windows , or curtain walls small windows they are all gray and ii cant choose them?

Re: dealing with design options

ToanDN — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:46:40 GMT

Change active option to Main Model (bottom status bar, or open Design Options window and finish editing), then you can select the main model's walls.

Re: dealing with design options

barthbradley — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:52:27 GMT

@rclement wrote:
i read that but from where cant use the main model because its frozen
neither curtain wall large windows , or curtain walls small windows they are all gray and ii cant choose them?

Here's the file...

Re: dealing with design options

rclement — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:01:22 GMT

can u do me a favor and send me your model aint working for me .want to see what u did

Re: dealing with design options

barthbradley — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:07:41 GMT

@rclement wrote:
can u do me a favor and send me your model aint working for me .want to see what u did

You are talking to me? Is the RVT I sent to you not working? Should I resend?

Re: dealing with design options

rclement — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 21:17:29 GMT

i didnt realize u sent me one. my question how the heck do u get to choose the walls. do you un check the exclude options? book tells me to cut, but when i took your model and copied wall .i went to atrium opt 2 deleted yurs and pasted mine..so let me see if it works in my model.

i appreciate yur time and patience

Re: dealing with design options

barthbradley — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 21:20:57 GMT

Yep, I did it the way you described. Bada bing. Quick and painless.

Your Welcome.

Re: dealing with design options

rclement — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 21:36:16 GMT

when i go to main model on the bottom and uncheck exclude model it allows me to click that main wall np

but when i go to atrium opt 2 its all gray. including that main wall. wtf am i doing wrong. when i go to yurs its a dark gray and edittable

Re: dealing with design options

barthbradley — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 21:58:21 GMT

Sorry, I'm not following you, buddy. I did exactly what you described before. Clicked Exclude, TAB-Selected the 3 Walls, Copied them to Clipboard, Pasted them Aligned to Same Place and then put it into Option 2 of the Atrium Design Option Set. Afterwards, I Attached them to the Atrium Roof.

Is the View's Design Option to Atrium Set Option 2?

Re: dealing with design options

ToanDN — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:23:49 GMT

As I have said above, you need to change to Main Model in order to select the main model elements to copy paste. Uncheck Exclude Option does not do the job efficiently, if at all.

Re: dealing with design options

barthbradley — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:49:00 GMT

https://autode.sk/36bTEGy

Re: dealing with design options

barthbradley — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:50:56 GMT

trying this again...

Re: dealing with design options

rclement — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:52:36 GMT

i have a few other questions

1. how can i now make a atrium opt 1 with the largw windows and atrium roof

2. how do i change roof to change to the new atrium roof?

do i go back to the main model and select roof but when i did that to smaller hip roof wasnt in atrium roof option 2

3. when you paste the three walls to atrium option 2 arent you putting the 3 walls on top of existing 3 walls?

when i use cut

by the way the little movie really helped i could watch over and over and reenact the commands

ty for your time and patience i hit a brick wall with the atrium

Re: dealing with design options

barthbradley — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 00:21:21 GMT

@rclement wrote:
i have a few other questions
1. how can i now make a atrium opt 1 with the largw windows and atrium roof

Are you asking how to make the Atrium Roof Option 2 the Primary? If so, go into the Design Options, select the Atrium Design Option 2 and press "Make Primary".

2. how do i change roof to change to the new atrium roof?

Are you asking how to create a View which shows a particular Deign Option? Go to the View's Visibility and Graphic Overrides Design Option Tab and set the Design Option you want the View to show (not "Automatic"). It's called a "Dedicated View".

Dedicate Views to a Design Option | Revit Products 2016 | Autodesk Knowledge Network

do i go back to the main model and select roof but when i did that to smaller hip roof wasnt in atrium roof option 2

Don't understand.

3. when you paste the three walls to atrium option 2 arent you putting the 3 walls on top of existing 3 walls?

Yes and no. I copied and pasted the 3 wall aligned to the same place, and immediately put them into the Atrium Option 2 Design Option.  So, momentarily they were overlapping existing walls, but not after I put them in a DO.

when i use cut
by the way the little movie really helped i could watch over and over and reenact the commands
ty for your time and patience i hit a brick wall with the atrium

You're welcome.

Re: dealing with design options

rclement — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:36:54 GMT

no what i am asking is

1. you have two options for curtain wall

op1 has large windows

op 2 has smaller windows

i have np there

then you make two options for atrium roof

you copy the roof and the three smaller walls to atrium roof 1 but not roof two

because option 2 is where you are going to make changes.

so you delete roof in option 2 and create a atrium roof using the extrude ok

but you still have the dormer cut out .how do i change that cut out from the hip roof

to now match the atrium curve.

so now you go back to main model and the std 3d view and cut which to me goes blank and then supposedly go tyhe copy and paste to same place in atrium roof opt 2 so u can attach the the three smaller walls to the new atrium roof

ok i see two sets of walls ? why am i supposed to delete before i paste to same place.

so now i have 3 versions

curtain wall opt 1 with large windows

curtain wall opt 2 with smaller windows

and a atrium roof with smaller windows

how do i get to change atrium roof option 1

which will have large windows and the atrium roof"

plus change the curvature of the dormer cutout to match the curvature of the atrium roof?

i still see two sets of walls? why so? even though i put in a design option?

eventually your going to tell to go f myself

Re: dealing with design options

barthbradley — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:14:58 GMT

@rclement wrote:

eventually your going to tell to go f myself

I would never say something like that. At least, not publicly. Check your Private Messages. Kidding.

You are asking a lot of questions that require a lot of words to explain. I don't do a lot of words. But, there are a lot of tutorials on line that have a lot of words - and even videos - that describe the Design Option workflow in great detail. Better than I could do in a single post, for sure.

Re: dealing with design options

rclement — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 15:40:18 GMT

i have looked for those videos mostly on 2 options. which i have no problems when it comes to the 4th option which is driving me crazy. but i do appreciate yur time and the efoort u have spent on me. ty

ill call my reseller i pay for support might as well break their horns