topic Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family in Revit Architecture Forum

How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

StephMarsh — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 15:39:59 GMT

I have a lot of groups in my template files.

But I need to now make them families. I have a chart that would be for New York State or New York City.

It would work best as a family. I don't want to remake the chart.

Any ideas?

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

barthbradley — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 16:06:18 GMT

What about Grouping Content and Saving Group to RFA?

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

syman2000 — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 16:15:17 GMT

Normally I would place it in drafting views and save it as group file. That way you can copy and paste the drafting view into next project easily without much hassle.

If you want to make it as family, I would use the titleblock route. Generic annotation family will scale your object/text. It is messy. Detail family will show your lines but not your text. Titleblock is a middle ground where it will display your text and maintain your lines. When you load in to the project, it will only appear on sheet view.

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

StephMarsh — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 16:44:18 GMT

I don't see where I can save the group as an .rfa file

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

StephMarsh — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 16:45:12 GMT

Can I use the text and lines I already draw?

It isn't letting me copy/paste them into the title block family.

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

barthbradley — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:00:48 GMT

Find the Group in the Project Browser, right-click on it and press Save Group.

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

StephMarsh — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:06:08 GMT

When I save the group I only have the option to save it as a .rvt file.

I am using 2020.

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

barthbradley — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:30:01 GMT

Ah! I misunderstood. I see now that you want to pull stuff out of the Project and put them into a Family. You know, FWIW, you can load Saved Groups it other Projects (Insert Tab=>Load as Group).

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

syman2000 — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:36:07 GMT

This is the pitfall of Revit. Whatever you create in project environment cannot copy over to family easily. I can't even transfer object(s) from views to sheets. Only way I've seen done is export to DWG and then insert the DWG into the family. It is something Autodesk need to fix. Right now you can save group and then load them in.

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

StephMarsh — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:45:37 GMT

That is what I am doing..

THanks

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

StephMarsh — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:47:15 GMT

Yes. I know that. I wish Autodesk would make it easier.

And I with we could phase rooms!!!!

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

lucdoucet_msdl — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:09:41 GMT

Errata: Obviously, other replies mentionned the same solution while I was composing this response. Although, curious to note that @barthbradley'.s solution is to avoid the stated problem! 😉

@StephMarsh

I have a lot of groups in my template files.

But I need to now make them families. I have a chart that would be for New York State or New York City.

It would work best as a family. I don't want to remake the chart.

I'm assuming from your title and use of the word "chart", that the "groups" are Revit detail groups and are in the form of a grid of lines and text.

If so, for each detail group, you could:
1. Place them on an empty view at the scale required (I will assume 1:1);

2. Export to DWG the view;

3. Create a new generic annotation family and set scale to 1:1;

4. Import CAD and explode the import;

5. Select all lines and assign them to the line object style required. Do the same to the all the text elements.

6. Purge the unused layers in the generic annotation.

You could also export all your detail groups on one mega DWG to RFA to process steps 5 & 6 at the same time, then create the individual RFA files from that work file and erase the data not applicable in each seperate chart RFA.

-luc

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

barthbradley — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:45:05 GMT

@lucdoucet_msdl wrote:
Errata: Obviously, other replies mentionned the same solution while I was composing this response. Although, curious to note that @barthbradley'.s solution is to avoid the stated problem! 😉

..."avoids the stated problem"? Are we reading the same thread? 🤔

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

lucdoucet_msdl — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:57:41 GMT

@barthbradley

My bad, I mis-read!

Your post was tagged as "a solution" by the OP with your FWIW comment. Need more coffee :-).

-luc

Re: How can I transfer text and lines from a group to a generic annotation family

jonsCTL39 — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 02:17:44 GMT

I know this is an old thread, but none of the "solutions" offered what was asked for.

Create a new Detail Item family. Then, in a project, edit a detail group to select the individual elements you want to be in the family. Copy & paste them into the family. Load into the project. Done.