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    <title>topic Re: Reference plane that can't be selected in Revit Architecture Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;It's a curious situation.&amp;nbsp; Not an alarming one. Still, I could better advise you if I could examine the file. It is not necessary to post an entire project or proprietary content. Just the relevant portion.&amp;nbsp; One easy way to do that, is by grouping the relevant content, locate the Named Group in the Project Browser, right-click on it and press "Save Group" in the right-click drop-down menu.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; This saves the Group to it's own RVT which you can post here. Afterwards, you can Ungroup the Source Group in the Project.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:51:31 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-03-21T16:51:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10172388#M116447</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Warning in the model that reference plane is slightly off axis and may cause inaccuracies, however the reference plane cannot be selected and is invisible. When I hide everything below it, you still can't select/ move it. Is this a big issue? Any help is appreciated.&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-left" image-alt="Reference Plane #2.jpg" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/895934i63CCC43D8F2427CD/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Reference Plane #2.jpg" alt="Reference Plane #2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-left" image-alt="Reference Plane.jpg" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/895933iC22F7DB56CBEE3D2/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Reference Plane.jpg" alt="Reference Plane.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:37:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-20T13:37:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10172901#M116448</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Most of the time it's a non-issue.&amp;nbsp; But you've been warned.&amp;nbsp; I see many "slightly off axis" when tracing CAD.&amp;nbsp; Most I can get away with.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2021 19:54:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-20T19:54:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10172904#M116449</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yeah that’s what it will be from,I traced a CAD drawing for my Site Plan,CAD drawing has been removed now&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2021 19:55:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-20T19:55:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10172905#M116450</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;One thing to note is that you can't pulled a dimension between a straight RP and a slightly off axis RP.&amp;nbsp; FWIW.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2021 19:57:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-20T19:57:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174119#M116451</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If I drag the reference plane it removes the warning.Would you suggest dragging the reference plane?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:04:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174119#M116451</guid>
      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T16:04:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174146#M116452</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It removes the Warning for it from the Review Warnings List?&amp;nbsp; If so, that seems strange.&amp;nbsp; Is it possible you straightened it when you moved it?&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I need more info. Can you put a revision cloud around it in the view and post the file?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:20:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174146#M116452</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T16:20:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174152#M116453</link>
      <description>I’m not sure if I can post it as it is a University Project! I could go back to the version before I imported the CAD file as that is when the problem occurred?I have a previous version on a USB?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:23:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T16:23:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174176#M116454</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Infact, it happened a few days before the CAD was imported, one file doesn’t show any warnings yet all the ones after it do,any guess why?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:40:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T16:40:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174193#M116455</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's a curious situation.&amp;nbsp; Not an alarming one. Still, I could better advise you if I could examine the file. It is not necessary to post an entire project or proprietary content. Just the relevant portion.&amp;nbsp; One easy way to do that, is by grouping the relevant content, locate the Named Group in the Project Browser, right-click on it and press "Save Group" in the right-click drop-down menu.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; This saves the Group to it's own RVT which you can post here. Afterwards, you can Ungroup the Source Group in the Project.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:51:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174193#M116455</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T16:51:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174196#M116456</link>
      <description>I will do Thankyou,I’ll be sending it over as soon as I can!&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:53:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T16:53:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174201#M116457</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's a good way to use this forum.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Talk to you soon.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:55:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174201#M116457</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T16:55:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174202#M116458</link>
      <description>Thanks,I’ve selected “multiple categories” but it’s not showing up as a group?Sorry what do I do?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:57:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T16:57:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174214#M116459</link>
      <description>It’s not letting me create a group whenever the Reference Plane is selected&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:05:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T17:05:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174221#M116460</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So, you are saying you can't include the rogue RP it in the Group?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, let's back up.&amp;nbsp; You say the RP is movable -- but not selectable or visible.&amp;nbsp; Is that right?&amp;nbsp; Is it part of an In-Place Modeled Component?&amp;nbsp; Also, you mentioned that the Warning is removed when you moved it. Does that mean it was removed from Review Warnings on the Manage Tab?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:11:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T17:11:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174224#M116461</link>
      <description>I will send you through a version in a minute,yes I can only identify the reference plane by element ID.I could change it by dragging the dimension tool&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:13:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T17:13:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174238#M116462</link>
      <description>The reference plane can’t be grouped, shall I send a file with virtually everything removed?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:24:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T17:24:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Reference plane that can't be selected</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/reference-plane-that-can-t-be-selected/m-p/10174251#M116463</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="8FC1EB7A-2D65-4C92-85AF-7A98DB583CEB.jpeg" style="width: 4032px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/896223i56A9C0498270D938/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="8FC1EB7A-2D65-4C92-85AF-7A98DB583CEB.jpeg" alt="8FC1EB7A-2D65-4C92-85AF-7A98DB583CEB.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; I think I may have found the problem!When this railing is deleted,in all versions of the model with this warning,the warning of “Reference plane is slightly off and may cause inaccuracies” goes,and it’s element ID cannot be found.The first file to have this warning was when this railing was added too!I will remove it from the model now,it might be because it’s reference host is a curved slope it might find hard to reference or something.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:31:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hatchethunter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-21T17:31:30Z</dc:date>
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