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Nested generic annoation - put on sub-category

HVAC-Novice — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 15:32:19 GMT

I have a lighting device with a nested generic annotation family. to control visibility of the annotation i want to put it on a sub-category of "Lighting Devices". but there doesn't seem to be a way to put the nested family on that sab-category.

The only workaround seems to be to edit the annotation family, and create a sub-category to "Generic Annoations". One problem is, I would prefer to control visibility of lighting devices under lighting devices. But the other problem is that the annotation family also has a "label", which seems to not be possible to be assigned to a sub-category.

what other options do I have? What I ultimately want to accomplish is to show a switch symbol ("$"for example) only on lighting plans, but not on all other views. those other views only should show the actual switch (without symbol). So just making the entire Lighting Device category invisible wouldn't work. Fr example, I need to coordinate thermostat locations with light switch locations.

I attached the family in question in R2021 version (My current is 2022, but i figured more people can open 2021)

Re: Nested generic annoation - put on sub-category

barthbradley — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 15:54:36 GMT

How about Nesting one into the other as a Shared Family under a different Category?

Re: Nested generic annoation - put on sub-category

HVAC-Novice — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:10:23 GMT

it seems the generic annotation family can only get changed into a lot of tag categories. when I change it to a lighting device tag (to be somewhat consistent) it gives me an error saying it only can nest certain categories.

I actually kind of resolved my problem and decided to try to get rid of the symbol entirely (I use tags for switches anyway). But still curious how to do that in case I want a symbol.

Re: Nested generic annoation - put on sub-category

barthbradley — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:13:02 GMT

I meant to nest it the other way around. You can't nest shared annotations.

Re: Nested generic annoation - put on sub-category

syman2000 — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:27:32 GMT

Typically I would set the generic annotation to show up in fine.

That way you can control the plan as course/medium and make it show up on RCP with fine detail.

Re: Nested generic annoation - put on sub-category

HVAC-Novice — Wed, 05 May 2021 13:19:00 GMT

thanks. but if i use the fine/coarse to make things visible, that also will apply to all other categories if i make a view fine/coarse. Or?

Like in my example, if I have a mechanical plan, and want to show the annotation of some mechanical families, but not electrical, lighting, architectural etc. Using the fine/coarse would be a too wide net to differentiate.

What I do now to close this thread is to just get rid of these annotations and only use a tag. My original example was a light switch, and even where I wanted the symbol being shown, it cluttered up the view when I had multiple switches next to each other. BTW, the ne wR2022 feature lets me tag multiple items (if they are the same) with a single tag. so that works even better.

I'll accept this as solution. Didn't really solve my original question, but A-desk keeps bugging me if I don't accept a solution and my new solution is acceptable to me 🙂

Re: Nested generic annoation - put on sub-category

syman2000 — Wed, 05 May 2021 13:38:42 GMT

You can control each category detail level thru graphics override. So if this applies to electrical, you can set it to fine while the rest will be by view.

Re: Nested generic annoation - put on sub-category

HVAC-Novice — Wed, 05 May 2021 17:21:00 GMT

Thanks. I hadn't realized i can change that per category.

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