topic Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements in Revit Architecture Forum

Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

Darin_HDR — Wed, 26 May 2021 14:04:12 GMT

I am working on a Revit 2022, BIM 360 collaborative model. Our office does not use worksets on collaborative models, we just "borrow" the elements we use and then relinquish borrowed elements each time we synchronize with central.

Currently I am the only person working in the model. As I prepare to close down the model after working in it I Synchronize with Central, making sure the "Borrowed Elements" under "After synchronizing, relinquish the following worksets and elements:" is checked (all other categories are greyed out).

Immediately after synchronizing I close down the model, only to receive this message.

Everything should have been relinquished when I synchronized so I am not sure why I get this message.

I have never had this issue in the past, so I am not sure what what has changed or what I am missing.

Side note, the title to this thread might be misleading because after I synchronize, borrowed elements do appear to no longer be borrowed (as the borrow icon reappears on previously borrowed elements) . So when I get the warning on close that I still have editable elements within the model, I don't necessarily know what Revit is referring to. But I would say, I have not taken (to my knowledge) control of any worksets and all borrowed elements should have been returned upon synchronizing.

Thanks for any assistance you are able to offer.

Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

RDAOU — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 08:18:50 GMT

@Darin_HDR

It could be due to switching connections in the middle of a session (we had this same issue once when our vpn server went down and users switched to normal wifi automatically and then back to vpn when the server kicked back in); however, it could also be due to various reasons such as

different/non-matching Revit Build
working with Revit multiple sessions.
It may as well be due to an addin (been through this one)
it could also be due to a dynamo graph/script

Besides not only model elements on worksets can be borrowed, also views and families. Not sure if these are an exception to the Borrowed Elements Check Box and how possible it may be to re-own a view after syncing. The guesses are infinite and it would be quite hard to figure which might be applicable to you

If it is something which is frequently happening, I would say try to use "Relinquish all Mine" then Sync and see if it reoccurs...

Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

Darin_HDR — Wed, 26 May 2021 17:27:49 GMT

@RDAOU thanks for the response. I think there are a couple of things we can rule out.

- Switching connections: I am connected to our server with an ethernet connection.

- Different Revit Builds: I am the only one who has ever been in this model so only one build has ever touched it (Revit 22.0.2.392)

- Multiple Revit Sessions: I only have one copy of Revit open and am only running the single project in it.

- Dynamo Script: Currently not using Dynamo.

This is my first Revit 2022, collaborative project and is being hosed on BIM 360. So at this point I can't say if it is project specific or BIM 360 specific. It did seem to be happening every time I closed the file which is why I posted this issue.

I did try the Relinquish All Mine and now (from what I can tell) the issue has stopped. I never really noticed this button before so thanks for the suggestion. Not sure if there was something Revit was having an issue relinquishing that this flushed out but it seems to have fixed it for me. I will update if the problem resurfaces.

Thanks again!

Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

DYoung-ORW — Wed, 26 May 2021 23:54:58 GMT

Did this happen after making the model a collaboration model or did you create a new workset?

When you first make a model collaborative you become the owner of "Workset1" and "Shared Levels and Grids". Also, if you create a new workset you're also set as the owner until relinquished.

The synchronize with central screen capture that you have shared shows that you're only releasing borrowed elements and the message is confirming if you want to keep ownership of elements.

An Autodesk explanation of this difference between borrow and ownership can be found here.

Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

Darin_HDR — Tue, 01 Jun 2021 13:05:25 GMT

@DYoung-ORW I did not create any new Worksets, there is just the default workset1. This was happening every time I was exiting the model, not just the first time after I created it.

Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

Jonathan.Ludwig — Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:56:40 GMT

This has happened with me frequently, for the past few weeks. I have all borrowed elements checked, but it never releases control. The "Relinquish All Mine" seems to have resolved the issue -- let's hope it holds.

Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

APavlovich — Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:33:40 GMT

This was happening to me this week as well. I was also the only one in the BIM360 work-shared model for the week and kept receiving the message about borrowed elements immediately after a sync. I just found that to resolve it, I had to make myself the owner of one of Workset1, sync, close-out, re-open, change Workset1 back to not editable, sync and close and then it finally stuck without having to relinquishing borrowed elements. Hopefully this will help someone else as well and that I truly did resolve the problem I was having.

Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

adobbertin — Tue, 19 Apr 2022 21:30:57 GMT

This keeps happening to me as well - the exact circumstances described by Darin_HDR above. "Relinquish all mine" solved the immediate issue, but I'd like to know why Revit is not automatically relinquishing as normal. In other words, I'd like to know if there's something I'm doing as part of my workflow that prevents Revit from relinquishing on the sync. Is it a bug? It sounds like pressing the "Relinquish all mine" button is just adding another step to the sync process, which already takes a long time.

Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

frankatf — Tue, 12 Jul 2022 13:52:34 GMT

I have been having the same problem, "Relinquish all mine" seems to have solved the issue. Thank you

Re: Revit not relinquishing borrowed elements

mseward25 — Wed, 16 Nov 2022 18:51:07 GMT

Has anyone found out why revit isn't relinquishing automatically for some users? We're having the issue of multiple users within a workshared 360 project and only one is affected - they're frequently leaving the model after syncing but haven't relinquished elements that others will inevitably need.