topic Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation in Revit Architecture Forum

Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:03:16 GMT

Usually when I place a lighting fixture family into Revit, it will show up in 3D but only the annotation symbol will show up on my electrical plan. I downloaded a new lighting fixture family but for some reason the model is showing up in my electrical plan instead of the annotation. Any ideas? Thanks!

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

barthbradley — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:07:44 GMT

Change the Visibility Settings of the Model Geometry in the Family. Sounds like you want it to be hidden in Plan/RCP. Uncheck the box then.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:09:13 GMT

The box is unchecked but it still shows up.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

RDAOU — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:09:16 GMT

The Geometry/ extrusions in the family are set to show in plan/rcp

Edit >> select extrusion >> visibility settings >>> uncheck plan/rcp

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

barthbradley — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:13:39 GMT

@tommy.adams6R4JL wrote:
The box is unchecked but it still shows up.

Sounds like a 2D Representation then. Go to Plan View in the Family and see what's there. Maybe a Masking Region?

TIP: Toggle the Preview Visibility ON.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:12:10 GMT

I tried this and the box is unchecked but it still shows up.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

RSomppi — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:18:12 GMT

Share the family.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:21:20 GMT

Here is the family in question. I hope you find it helpful.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

barthbradley — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:28:10 GMT

How are you placing it? On vertical face, face or workplane?

Vertical Face Representation:

Face and Workplane Representation:

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:26:18 GMT

I am placing in on a vertical face

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:30:36 GMT

It looks like this may have been the issue. How do I get it to show the annotation symbol in vertical face representation?

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

barthbradley — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:31:20 GMT

Vertical Face? Then you are seeing 2D Masking Regions that are in the Family.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

barthbradley — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:32:46 GMT

@tommy.adams6R4JL wrote:
It looks like this may have been the issue. How do I get it to show the annotation symbol in vertical face representation?

You can't. Tag it in the Project instead.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:37:47 GMT

I am unsure what you mean. I'm pretty new to making revit families. None of my other light fixtures give me an option for a plane to attach it to. They automatically snap to my walls and place an annotation symbol when I place them. I dont know why this particular model is giving me a different set of options when placing it in the project.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

ToanDN — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:40:17 GMT

@tommy.adams6R4JL wrote:
I am unsure what you mean. I'm pretty new to making revit families. None of my other light fixtures give me an option for a plane to attach it to. They automatically snap to my walls and place an annotation symbol when I place them. I dont know why this particular model is giving me a different set of options when placing it in the project.

Because it is a face based family so you have more options to choose to host it. The one you had is a wall base family so it always choose a wall as the host.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:42:47 GMT

That makes sense! So theres no way to change it from a face based family to a wall based family?

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

ToanDN — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:51:18 GMT

@tommy.adams6R4JL wrote:
That makes sense! So theres no way to change it from a face based family to a wall based family?

There are. However,

1 - it is unnecessary. A face based family can be more flexible in a lot of conditions.

2 - it may not address your original question.

So, share the family here so we can look at it and suggest suitable approaches.

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:54:30 GMT

I'm needing to change it to wall based so it is consistent with our other lighting fixtures. I dont see myself placing these lights on anything other than a wall. I've attached the family. Thanks!

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

barthbradley — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:57:09 GMT

Why don't you just place it on a Workplane?

Re: Model showing up on electrical plan instead of annotation

tommy.adams6R4JL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:01:29 GMT

I mean we can but we want our library of families to be consistent. Every other lighting fixture we have is wall hosted so it would be great if we could make this one wall hosted too.