topic Re: Creation components in mode MODEL IN-PLACE in Revit API Forum

Creation components in mode MODEL IN-PLACE

Adamchuk_Nicolay — Wed, 03 Apr 2013 19:49:32 GMT

Hi,

is it possibility to create some components (for example mass) in mode - model in-place ?

Some methods (for example NewLoftForm) are availabel in Revit editor only.

Thank you for advance.

Re: Creation components in mode MODEL IN-PLACE

saikat — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 22:29:57 GMT

Unfortunately, Inplace family creation is not supported with the API. Sorry about that.

Workaround would be to programmatically create the mass family, load the mass family into the project and insert an instance of it in the model.

Re: Creation components in mode MODEL IN-PLACE

GeomGym — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:10:11 GMT

Are there any other options for creating in-place objects in Revit?

Trouble is Revit has many restrictions such as limited categories for mass and generic model families.

If I want to categorize a bespoke object as a floor (so that say walls could be manually attached to it), then this is a problem.

One work around I have thought of it to generate the geometry in a generic model object, and then have the user cut and paste this (using clipboard) into a manually created in-place object. But this is far from ideal and even then shaft openings don't cut in-place floors. I can generate voiding extrusions into the family, but then when cutting and pasting into an in-place these don't automatically cut the object (they do automatically cut if manually place it).

Any suggestions or ideas are gratefully appreciated.

Thanks,

Jon

Re: Creation components in mode MODEL IN-PLACE

Revitalizer — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 06:48:00 GMT

Dear Nicolay Adamchuk,

since Revit 2015, you can use DirectShape to create prototype objects in project context.

Such objects are similar to in-place families.

Best regards,

Revitalizer

Re: Creation components in mode MODEL IN-PLACE

GeomGym — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 08:27:25 GMT

Thanks for your reply. Yes I do use these objects in 2015.

But I guess it depends on your definition of similar. They are not editable downstream by users, and you can't attach walls to them or cut them with voids or shafts (it seems you can't cut in-place floors with shafts manually either).

Image and model attached.

Cheers,

Jon

Re: Creation components in mode MODEL IN-PLACE

Revitalizer — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 09:51:25 GMT

Hi GeoGym,

yes, DirectShape is not the equvalent to the in-place family.

Autodesk may improve DS to match IPFs behaviour in the future, who knows.

DS seems to be a sort of Element for which there is no senseful use case.

You can create it, you can add materials to each of its faces, but that's it.

I had a discussion with Jeremy a month ago because you cannot get the volume parameter of them, e.g. of a Wall DS.

So you cannot sum it up in schedules.

After all, if DirectShape does not fit your needings at the moment, and if you need to create persistent geometry, there is no other way than use Families which are created and placed at runtime.

As Saikat already suggested.

Greetings,

Revitalizer