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    <title>topic Re: How to create an in-place mass in Revit API Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear Remy,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Creating an in-place mass is not supported by the Revit API.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That is why people create families in the background instead, and insert an instance of them:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2011/06/creating-and-inserting-an-extrusion-family.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2011/06/creating-and-inserting-an-extrusion-family.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And that, again, is why the DirectShape element was introduced in Revit 2015 -- it allows you to create faceted geometry directly in the project without the need for an extra background family definition:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2014/05/directshape-performance-and-minimum-size.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2014/05/directshape-performance-and-minimum-size.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2014/11/directshape-versus-families-category-and-texture.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2014/11/directshape-versus-families-category-and-texture.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://github.com/jeremytammik/DirectObjLoader" target="_blank"&gt;https://github.com/jeremytammik/DirectObjLoader&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Jeremy&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:05:11 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jeremytammik</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-02-13T17:05:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How to create an in-place mass</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/5504724#M73942</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi there,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anybody know if and how one can make an in-place mass with the revit api. All examples I can find is the mass is created as seperate .rfa family and I don't want that. I need an in-place family of type mass.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, I know&amp;nbsp;doc.Create.NewExtrusionForm works in an familydocument, but I am searching for it's equivalent in project document.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:41:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-12T12:41:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to create an in-place mass</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/5506689#M73943</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear Remy,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Creating an in-place mass is not supported by the Revit API.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That is why people create families in the background instead, and insert an instance of them:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2011/06/creating-and-inserting-an-extrusion-family.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2011/06/creating-and-inserting-an-extrusion-family.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And that, again, is why the DirectShape element was introduced in Revit 2015 -- it allows you to create faceted geometry directly in the project without the need for an extra background family definition:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2014/05/directshape-performance-and-minimum-size.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2014/05/directshape-performance-and-minimum-size.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2014/11/directshape-versus-families-category-and-texture.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2014/11/directshape-versus-families-category-and-texture.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://github.com/jeremytammik/DirectObjLoader" target="_blank"&gt;https://github.com/jeremytammik/DirectObjLoader&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Jeremy&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:05:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/5506689#M73943</guid>
      <dc:creator>jeremytammik</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-13T17:05:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to create an in-place mass</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/5508136#M73944</link>
      <description>Thanx Jeremy, actually I already thought this wasn't possible but sometimes you hope your wrong &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; I will give directshape a try.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 06:42:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/5508136#M73944</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-16T06:42:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to create an in-place mass</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/5509420#M73945</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear Remy,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I thought you would know that.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And yes, while there is life, there is hope!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So it is always worthwhile asking... again and again... &amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Jeremy&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:50:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/5509420#M73945</guid>
      <dc:creator>jeremytammik</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-17T07:50:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to create an in-place mass</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/8391820#M73946</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am keeping asking for an in-place mass API - Specially after we worked with Autodesk consultant service on a workflow which places adaptive&amp;nbsp;families (curtain wall panels) to points/lines in-place mass.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The workflow defined by Autodesk turned out soon as impossible without API - Now we define the model elsewhere, store to a database the workpoints and create&amp;nbsp;them inside Revit by DirectShape. Plus adding commands to update..&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But we keep asking..&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2018 15:10:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/8391820#M73946</guid>
      <dc:creator>m.buehler1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-09T15:10:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to create an in-place mass</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/8393398#M73947</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Dear Michael,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Have you voted for API access to the in-place mass in the Revit Idea Station?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;That is the main driving force for implementation of developer requests nowadays.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Do you have a number for a wish list item? I am pretty sure one exists.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I would name both the wish list item number and the link to the Revit Idea Station entry in a post like yours.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Furthermore, have you looked into using a direct shape element instead of an in-place mass?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="https://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/about-the-author.html#5.50" target="_blank"&gt;https://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/about-the-author.html#5.50&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It is a much more modern element with better API support.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Cheers,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Jeremy&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2018 12:32:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jeremytammik</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-10T12:32:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to create an in-place mass</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/8410801#M73948</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Jeremy&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes I voted for the 'Revit API on in-place mass'; I found this one:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/8393398" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api-forum/how-to-create-an-in-place-mass/m-p/8393398&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And yes: Currently we are working on a DirectShapes based implementation. However, the use of DirectShapes requires custom commands to create/modify which is not ideal. In our case reference lines to drive manufacturing data (similar as shown in&amp;nbsp;AU 2018 Las Vegas&amp;nbsp;presentation 'The Future of Workflow Forge Automation'..&amp;nbsp; I will send a more detailed feedback to those guys directly)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:27:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>m.buehler1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-11-19T15:27:45Z</dc:date>
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