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Finding distance between points in multiple views

Khadourwaseem — Wed, 07 Apr 2021 07:33:48 GMT

So I have a probelm, My command prompts the user to place three points on a view to place an annotation symbol, but I need to find the distance between my points and the relationship between them in all views and sections,
(See image) I need to know if P2 is placed higher or lower of P1, and P3 is it to the right or left of P2 and then calculate the distance between them,
I've tried this method from Jeremy The Building Coder: Planes, Projections and Picking Points (typepad.com)
but the U&V can flip between views, (For example in the north, south elevations the distance between P1&P2 is The U value, and in east, west it's the V value)
For now my command works only on plans. but i want to make it unviersal. Is there such a way ?

Finding distance between points in multiple views

jeremy_tammik — Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:01:33 GMT

Basically, your thee points are simple 3D points with cartesian coordinates stored in XYZ objects, so their Euclidian distances and projected offsets along the cardinal axes are trivial to calculate.

So, the question remains open what you actually wish to achieve.

Do you wish to display the distances between these points using Revit dimensioning in the different views?

The most effective approach is probably to figure out what you want and how to achieve it manually in the user interface first.

Once that is clear, you can step into the programming environment and explore how to automate it.

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

Khadourwaseem — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 06:32:31 GMT

All i want to do is to:

calculate the vertical distance between P1 and P2, and figure out if P2 is ABOVE or BELOW P1
Figure out if P3 is to right or left of P2

My plug in: place a family instance and set it to one of four possible states : 1. top right, 2.Top left, 3. bottom rightm 4. Bottom left. depending on the user input

I tried this method:The Building Coder: Planes, Projections and Picking Points (typepad.com)
but you see the vertical distance between p1, p2 is sometimes defined by the distance in U Value (q1.U -q2.U) and sometimes it’s the V Value (q1.V - q2.V) depending on the view.
I need a way to make sure the vertical axis IS either V or U in all views, sections, plans and so on. Thanks 🙂

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

jeremy_tammik — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 07:31:56 GMT

Sorry, but I still do not understand your context.

Where do the points P1, P2, etc. come from? Are they picked by the user, or points on a BIM element, or something else?

If they are points on a BIM element, they have XYZ coordinates.

What does 'vertical' mean? Are you talking about the Z axis in 3D space, or the Y axis on a 2D plane?

You mention U and V. Where do they come from?

Can you briefly describe the complete situation to clarify the context?

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

Khadourwaseem — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 10:28:44 GMT

I’m sorry for not being able to explain my idea clearly..

But to elaborate, the P1, P2, P3 are points picked by the user, to place an annotation symbol(XYZ P1 = uidoc.selection.Pickpoints()),
And the annotation symbol is a floor detail symbol (generic annotation family) that has four states and I want the user to be able the set the state of the family in a way that if he click p1, and then click somewhere up on the view and then clicks to the right, the family will be set to a specific state, and if the user click the first point somewhere on the sheet and then goes down and click somewhere, and then goes to the left, he places a new family annotation symbol with a different state.
I have no idea what view the user will be placing the family on, or if some of the points he places will be snapped to a wall or a floor or to a door or something else.

I think it’s wrong to use XYZ points for this but I can't seem to find another way to do it.
For now the plugin works only in plan views with nothing in the model (See video). But once the user is in any other view, or elevation it breaks

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

RPTHOMAS108 — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 11:04:41 GMT

If you want to compare points in the coordinate system of the view you have to transform them into the coordinate system of the view.

Plans and model ordinarily have same system, unless plan view is rotated.

Private Function TObj175(ByVal commandData As Autodesk.Revit.UI.ExternalCommandData, ByRef message As String, ByVal elements As Autodesk.Revit.DB.ElementSet) As Result Dim UIDoc As UIDocument = commandData.Application.ActiveUIDocument If UIDoc Is Nothing Then Return Result.Cancelled Else Dim IntDoc As Document = UIDoc.Document Dim AcView As View = UIDoc.ActiveGraphicalView Dim T As Transform = Transform.Identity T.BasisX = AcView.RightDirection 'To right of screen T.BasisY = AcView.UpDirection 'To top of screen T.BasisZ = AcView.ViewDirection 'Towards viewer T.Origin = AcView.Origin Dim R As Reference = Nothing Try R = UIDoc.Selection.PickObject(Selection.ObjectType.PointOnElement) Catch ex As Exception End Try Dim Pt As XYZ = R.GlobalPoint Dim PtT As XYZ = T.Inverse.OfPoint(Pt) 'Tranform to screen coord space Dim SB As New Text.StringBuilder() SB.AppendLine(String.Format("Model x={0:F3},y={1:F3},z={2:F3}", Pt.X, Pt.Y, Pt.Z)) SB.AppendLine(String.Format("Screen x={0:F3},y={1:F3},z={2:F3}", PtT.X, PtT.Y, PtT.Z)) TaskDialog.Show("Coords", SB.ToString) Return Result.Succeeded End Function

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

jeremy_tammik — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 13:49:07 GMT

Thank you Richard for the illuminating explanation and nice sample code!

Here it is in C#:

bool TransformPickPointToScreen( UIDocument uidoc ) { Document doc = uidoc.Document; View view = uidoc.ActiveGraphicalView; Transform t = Transform.Identity; t.Origin = view.Origin; t.BasisX = view.RightDirection; // right on screen t.BasisY = view.UpDirection; // top of screen t.BasisZ = view.ViewDirection; // towards viewer Transform x_model_to_screen = t.Inverse; Reference r; try { r = uidoc.Selection.PickObject( ObjectType.PointOnElement ); } catch(Autodesk.Revit.Exceptions.OperationCanceledException) { return false; } XYZ p = r.GlobalPoint; // model XYZ q = x_model_to_screen.OfPoint( p ); // screen StringBuilder sb = new StringBuilder(); sb.AppendFormat( "Model x={0:F3},y={1:F3},z={2:F3}", p.X, p.Y, p.Z ); sb.AppendFormat( "Screen x={0:F3},y={1:F3},z={2:F3}", q.X, q.Y, q.Z ); TaskDialog.Show( "Coords", sb.ToString() ); return true; }

https://github.com/jeremytammik/the_building_coder_samples/compare/2021.0.150.23...2021.0.150.24

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

Khadourwaseem — Sat, 10 Apr 2021 08:27:59 GMT

Thank you. 🙂

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

Khadourwaseem — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 08:44:05 GMT

I have a follow up:

1. If i want to move an element up, left, or right. how can i transfer from the coordinate system of the screen to the global coordinate system

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

RPTHOMAS108 — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:00:23 GMT

Depends what method you are using to move the element.

The destination location in model coords can be found similar to above but with .Inverse omitted.

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

Khadourwaseem — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:19:41 GMT

I am using this method :

XYZ aboveleft_vector = new XYZ(How much I want to move the element left&right, How much I want to move the element up&down, 0);

ElementTransformUtils.MoveElement(doc, Floor_detail_Instance.Id, aboveleft_vector);
It works just fine in a plan view, but for different views. Is there an example or a post where I can see how it can be done

Re: Finding distance between points in multiple views

RPTHOMAS108 — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:37:00 GMT

You can use Transform.OfVector, this ignores origin in transformation.

ElementTransformUtils is expecting vector in model co-ords so again without inverse.

Alternatively you can convert start and end point locations to model space first using OfPoint and get the vector by subtracting the start from the end.

Depends also what you are trying to move, some things are fixed to a plane (so can't be moved in global z for example).