topic Re: Watsewater pipe calculation in Revit API Forum

Watsewater pipe calculation

tamsann — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:45:13 GMT

Recently, I have been trying to research plumbing calculations. With the help of this forum, I discovered a method called "User MEP Calculation". However, I have noticed that it only provides solutions for water supply calculations. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could suggest a method for wastewater pipe calculation.

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

jeremy_tammik — Sun, 02 Jul 2023 15:01:59 GMT

I have never encountered a Revit API sample for wastewater pipe calculation. Not being an HVAC expert, I do not know what the difference to the existing samples might be. I would assume that some things differ from the existing samples, but all the fundamental programming principles remain unchanged. Therefore, assuming that you are an HVAC expert knowledgeable in these differences, it would be very kind of you to implement and share a sample of this type. Thank you!

P.S. Could you correct the typo in your descriptive title, please, to make this thread easier to find for future queries? For the good of the entire universe, please always spell check everything you publish anywhere. Thank you again!

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

reylorente1 — Sun, 02 Jul 2023 16:12:35 GMT

Hola de nuevo,existe un Addin,llamado Sewage and Rainwater Drainage System,pero su ultimo año de edicion es 2023,te puede servir de ayuda,para empezar,por lo menos una guia.

Hello again, there is an Addin, called Sewage and Rainwater Drainage System, but its last year of edition is 2023, it can help you, to start, at least a guide.

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

tamsann — Sun, 02 Jul 2023 16:35:41 GMT

Hello @jeremy_tammik, Thank you for answering my question, I appreciate your kind reminder to correct the typo in the title and commit to being more diligent in spell-checking for future posts. Your feedback is valuable. Thank you once again for your considerate suggestion!

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

tamsann — Sun, 02 Jul 2023 16:50:41 GMT

Hello @reylorente1, I feel very grateful because you always provide me with valuable answers. You seem to be an expert in this field, while I am just a beginner.

Can I ask you a question about water supply calculations because I am currently working on it? My question is, when calculating the flow rate of a pipe, flow rate depend on the FlowConversionMode. How can Revit understand whether the project is "predominantly flush valves" or "predominantly flush tanks"?

Thank you very much once again.

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

reylorente1 — Sun, 02 Jul 2023 18:36:51 GMT

La respuesta te la mando con imagen, ya que me ayudo con google translator para poder traducirte y ayudarte.

I send you the answer with an image, since it helped me with google translator to be able to translate and help you.

Ejemplo de un sistema

Si observas, en las zonas de las tab, una de ella se puso de color amarillo o naranja. Dale clic a esa pestaña se abre otro menu y en la tabla de propiedades ,vuelve a darle click a Edit Type, se abre un cuadro (Type Properties) y donde dice Flow Conversion method, lo cambias Predominantly Flush Tanks(Tambien lo puedes hacer por System browser para llegar a al cuadro (Type Properties).Recuerda que tienes que cambiar en Mechanical Setting, en Pipe Settings, donde tienes las pestaña Flow en adicionar el Addin que hiciste o por ejemplo el que te mande UserMepCalculation 2024.
Aqui te mando las imágenes.
Espero que hayas entendido y suerte

If you look, in the tab areas, one of them turned yellow or orange. Click on that tab another menu opens and in the properties table, click Edit Type again, a box opens (Type Properties) and where it says Flow Conversion method, you change it Predominantly Flush Tanks (You can also do it by System browser to get to the box (Type Properties). Remember that you have to change in Mechanical Setting, in Pipe Settings, where you have the Flow tab to add the Addin that you made or for example the one that UserMepCalculation 2024 sends you.
Here I send you the images.
I hope you understand and good luck

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

reylorente1 — Sun, 02 Jul 2023 18:48:04 GMT

Se me olvido escribirte, que tienes que crear un sistema ,para realizar ,todo lo que expuse anteriormente

I forgot to write to you, that you have to create a system, to carry out, everything that I exposed previously

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

tamsann — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 02:13:55 GMT

@reylorente1 I was able to do it because you provided me with an incredibly detailed guide. Thank you very much for dedicating your valuable time to me. 👍🙏

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

jeremy_tammik — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 07:24:45 GMT

Wow, thank you very much @reylorente1 for the detailed in-depth explanation!

Do you mean an add-in in the Revit AppStore? I see several different possible Revit add-ins searching for Revit Sewage and Rainwater Drainage System:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=revit+Sewage+and+Rainwater+Drainage+System

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

reylorente1 — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 10:24:31 GMT

Me alegra mucho que te haya servido. Una pregunta, esta teniendo en cuenta, la altura de la toma de agua del mueble o la presión con que llega?,a que en el USERMEPCalculation, no lo asume, si vas en los cálculos de los sistemas de tubería en Fontanería

I am very glad that it has served you. One question, is taking into account the height of the water intake of the furniture(Plumbing Fixture) or the pressure with which it arrives?, which in the USERMEPCalculation, it does not assume, if you go into the calculations of the Plumbing systems

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

reylorente1 — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 10:30:14 GMT

Hola Jeremy, es el mismo Complemento (Addin), llamado SRwD(Sewage and Rainwater Drainage System)

Hi Jeremy, it's the same Addin, called SRwD(Sewage and Rainwater Drainage System)

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

tamsann — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 16:01:55 GMT

@reylorente1 yess. Now I'm facing a new challenge.

I see an old topic you mention about this issue Flow pressure.

Did you find the solution for it?

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

jeremy_tammik — Fri, 07 Jul 2023 16:20:34 GMT

Brilliant! Do you have a direct link for the sewage and wastewater add-in?

Edited and shared on the blog:

https://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/blog/2023/07/docs-lookup-mep-calculation-and-aps-devcon.html#7

Thank you again for this, @reylorente1 !

Re: Watsewater pipe calculation

reylorente1 — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 21:33:48 GMT

Si,lo resolvi.Quise ver la ruta critica que daba el propio revit,pero al final me convenci,que no tiene la altura de las tomas de los muebles.Por tato en la familia,tuve que crear un parametro compartido("HAF",es mi caso,lo puedes llamar,como tu quieras),con su respertiva altura y le adiccione "Flow Prresure", ya a parti de ahi.Calcule mi ruta critica.Tal como tre muestro en la imagen.

Yes, I solved it. I wanted to see the critical path given by the revit itself, but in the end it convinced me that it does not have the height of the sockets of the furniture. Therefore, in the family of (PlumbingFixture), I had to create a shared parameter ("HAF", in my case, you can call it whatever you want), with its respective height and add "Flow Prresure", from there. Calculate my critical path. As I show in the image.

Y mostre los valores tramo por tramo en la Tabla que ves arriba.Asi veo si se cumple el Flow Pressure que puse en la tabla de Propiedades.En mi caso el aparato de mayor altura.

Esa fue mi solucion.A lo mejor tu encuentra una mejor.Pero lo que quiero decirte que a traves del Revit se puede hacer.

Y mostre los valores tramo por tramo en la Tabla que ves arriba.Asi veo si se cumple el Flow Pressure que puse en la tabla de Propiedades.En mi caso el Plumbing Fixtures de mayor altura de la toma de Agua

Esa fue mi solucion.A lo mejor tu encuentra una mejor.Pero lo que quiero decirte que a traves del Revit se puede hacer.