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    <title>topic Re: Recap 2025 poor performance in ReCap Forum</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12877900#M498</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your answer. I have the issue with every dataset, but here is an example:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://prigentassocies.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/EXrWjQteOopKuwO3TY8WAw4Bhzz3mYYptcKh5vNuu_QT_g?e=iKb2S7" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Recap example.7z&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp; (4.9 GB, 308 million points, 23 scans).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How bad it is depends on the pointsize (so try putting it at 1), the total number of points, but also the number of scans (something I just noticed).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I subjectively compared the lag on a few projects to give you an idea (point size 2):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 19M points, 1 scan (unstructured):&amp;nbsp;barely perceptible&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 247M points, 1 scan (unstructured):&amp;nbsp;barely perceptible&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 511M&amp;nbsp;points, 1 scan (unstructured):&amp;nbsp;barely perceptible&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 72M points, 5 scans (structured): barely perceptible&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 308M points, 23 scans (structured):&amp;nbsp;annoying to work with&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 248M points, 58 scans (structured): annoying to work with&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- anything with more scans : too frustrating to work with&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At point size 1, the lag becomes very perceptible for all of the above.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:32:12 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>TanguyNed</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-07-04T07:32:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Recap 2025 poor performance</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12820763#M493</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have recently updated Recap to 2025 from 2023.1. That update was forced by Autodesk and I didn't have a choice if I wanted to continue using the program.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To my sadness the display performance has taken a huge hit. I've made two videos, one with Recap 2023.1 (glad I made this one while I could still use it), one with Recap 2025:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://youtu.be/o_OD6DivpjQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Recap 2023.1&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://youtu.be/vk3BIuXiSz8" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Recap 2025&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are two issues that should be more or less apparent:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1) the framerate with Recap 2025 is much lower (30-40% lower per my rough estimation counting frames from the videos),&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2) see me moving the cursor and nothing is happening ? That's because after using orbit or pan, there's a freeze. So I can't quickly "chain" two orbits, I have to wait.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've tried the usual: updating drivers, messing around with settings, etc. There's one thing that has an effect, and that's changing the point size. The bigger, the better, at 5 the orbit-freeze issue is reduced, at 10 it's gone completely. No effect on the framerate however.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, is anyone also affected by this? I've spent a lot of time testing (and making this post), would a developer be so kind to give some of their and have a look?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My specs:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Windows 10&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9940X CPU @ 3.30GHz&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;RTX 2080 Ti&lt;BR /&gt;64.0&amp;nbsp;Go RAM&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;SSD Samsung 970 PRO 1TB&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2024 06:34:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12820763#M493</guid>
      <dc:creator>TanguyNed</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-06-07T06:34:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recap 2025 poor performance</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12857388#M494</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No answer? I've taken the liberty to try my luck&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.laserscanningforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=112253" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;(I hope it's not rude to link to another forum), and it seems that I'm not the only one having problems with Recap 2025 (and 2024).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, are the devs aware of this? Any communication on their part would be appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 07:08:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12857388#M494</guid>
      <dc:creator>TanguyNed</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-06-24T07:08:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recap 2025 poor performance</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12858239#M495</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Tanguy,&lt;BR /&gt;Have you started a support ticket with Autodesk? If they don't know about it they can't fix it.&lt;BR /&gt;Dave&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2024 14:47:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12858239#M495</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pointdump</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-06-24T14:47:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recap 2025 poor performance</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12871038#M496</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/564312"&gt;@Pointdump&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm using the free version of the software, and AutoDesk&amp;nbsp;doesn’t provide technical support with free software.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="NoSupport.png" style="width: 519px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1381849iE3140C0FC39D6464/image-dimensions/519x109?v=v2" width="519" height="109" role="button" title="NoSupport.png" alt="NoSupport.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So how are free users to report bugs?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Besides, posting on the forum has more reach, and developers seem to have a presence (one of them answered one of my posts not long ago).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 10:00:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12871038#M496</guid>
      <dc:creator>TanguyNed</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-07-01T10:00:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recap 2025 poor performance</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12875126#M497</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/707198"&gt;@TanguyNed&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sorry you're facing this issue.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Would it be possible to share your dataset with us for validation? If Yes, I will PM you an Autodesk confidential link.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have tried some large datasets and I am unable to reproduce the issue so far. I am not sure if this could be hardware / machine related yet. Since 2023 version there have been various component updates to meet security standards as well.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanking You.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Warmest Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 03:50:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12875126#M497</guid>
      <dc:creator>barmanr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-07-03T03:50:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recap 2025 poor performance</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12877900#M498</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your answer. I have the issue with every dataset, but here is an example:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://prigentassocies.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/EXrWjQteOopKuwO3TY8WAw4Bhzz3mYYptcKh5vNuu_QT_g?e=iKb2S7" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Recap example.7z&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp; (4.9 GB, 308 million points, 23 scans).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How bad it is depends on the pointsize (so try putting it at 1), the total number of points, but also the number of scans (something I just noticed).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I subjectively compared the lag on a few projects to give you an idea (point size 2):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 19M points, 1 scan (unstructured):&amp;nbsp;barely perceptible&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 247M points, 1 scan (unstructured):&amp;nbsp;barely perceptible&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 511M&amp;nbsp;points, 1 scan (unstructured):&amp;nbsp;barely perceptible&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 72M points, 5 scans (structured): barely perceptible&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 308M points, 23 scans (structured):&amp;nbsp;annoying to work with&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- 248M points, 58 scans (structured): annoying to work with&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- anything with more scans : too frustrating to work with&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At point size 1, the lag becomes very perceptible for all of the above.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:32:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12877900#M498</guid>
      <dc:creator>TanguyNed</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-07-04T07:32:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recap 2025 poor performance</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12877989#M499</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Now THAT is a dataset!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dave&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 08:11:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12877989#M499</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pointdump</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-07-04T08:11:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recap 2025 poor performance</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12877998#M500</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/564312"&gt;@Pointdump&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;In what sense? From my point of view this is a fairly standard one. Rather small.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 08:22:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TanguyNed</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-07-04T08:22:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Recap 2025 poor performance</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12878410#M501</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/707198"&gt;@TanguyNed&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the dataset and a detailed overview of your test cases. We'll take a look and validate the same.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanking You.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Warmest Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 12:42:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/recap-forum/recap-2025-poor-performance/m-p/12878410#M501</guid>
      <dc:creator>barmanr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-07-04T12:42:13Z</dc:date>
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