topic Re: am I correct ObjectArx only runs on winnt/2000? in ObjectARX Forum

am I correct ObjectArx only runs on winnt/2000?

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:16:50 GMT

I see on the site to download the sdk that it is for nt.
Does that mean it won't run on 98?
I dl'ed the core files but the install.txt describes installing from cd
which I don't have.
The dl'ed .exe unzipped itself into several folders but I see no setup.exe
Is that because I'm not on nt? or did the dl'ed .exe function like
setup.exe would have from a cd?
I am total novice to c++ and objectArx so have no idea what to do to get
started.
thanks for any newbie explanations
Mark

Re: am I correct ObjectArx only runs on winnt/2000?

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:35:44 GMT

I don't know about the install, but doing ObjectARX development on Win98 can
be extremely painful because pretty much every time you crash or otherwise
mess up the AutoCAD process (which can happen a lot during development) you
have to reboot your machine. Under NT the system cleans it all up and no
reboot is necessary.

"MP" wrote in message
news:D2B2D5B908676227A5173D3E0F2E9665@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I see on the site to download the sdk that it is for nt.
> Does that mean it won't run on 98?
> I dl'ed the core files but the install.txt describes installing from cd
> which I don't have.
> The dl'ed .exe unzipped itself into several folders but I see no setup.exe
> Is that because I'm not on nt? or did the dl'ed .exe function like
> setup.exe would have from a cd?
> I am total novice to c++ and objectArx so have no idea what to do to get
> started.
> thanks for any newbie explanations
> Mark
>
>

Re: am I correct ObjectArx only runs on winnt/2000?

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:49:23 GMT

If you're a _total_ novice to both, then you're not likely to learn
ObjectARX by random tweaking and trying. I strongly recommend "Programming
AutoCAD 2000 Using ObjectARX" by Charles McAuley (isbn: 0-7668-0643-x). It,
among other things contains in the beginning info as to how to install the
AppWizard (the SDK files itself aren't installed, but manually copied to the
directory of your choice on the hard drive). I don't recall any executibles
in the SDK itself. You will need the AppWizard installer to get going (or
so I recall I had to do it). Anything you write, may or may not run on 98,
it's up to you to program your plug-in in a way that will make it run on
both NT and 98/ME. As far as I know, what the "NT" notion means here, is
that the SDK is _designed_ for writing apps for NT. It may take some
tweaking to get it to work under 98. I may be wrong, of course, but all you
seem to need to write a 98 compatible plug-in is to avoid using NT-only
APIs, or ARX calls that make use of them.

If I recall it right, the wizard installation dir is somewhere in the
\Utils\ObjARXWiz folder in the extracted collection.

best of luck.

Alex.

"MP" wrote in message
news:D2B2D5B908676227A5173D3E0F2E9665@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I see on the site to download the sdk that it is for nt.
> Does that mean it won't run on 98?
> I dl'ed the core files but the install.txt describes installing from cd
> which I don't have.
> The dl'ed .exe unzipped itself into several folders but I see no setup.exe
> Is that because I'm not on nt? or did the dl'ed .exe function like
> setup.exe would have from a cd?
> I am total novice to c++ and objectArx so have no idea what to do to get
> started.
> thanks for any newbie explanations
> Mark
>
>

Re:

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:49:23 GMT

Thanks to both Alex and Art,

looks like I've got some reading to do! 🙂 or is that 😞 ?
oh yeah, not to mention upgrading...definitely 😞 !

Alex Parshikov wrote in message
news:F4B57511F8AF3945ABAF7DDEFF9C88D8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> If you're a _total_ novice to both, then you're not likely to learn
> ObjectARX by random tweaking and trying. I strongly recommend
"Programming
> AutoCAD 2000 Using ObjectARX" by Charles McAuley (isbn: 0-7668-0643-x).
It,

Re:

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Jun 2002 09:42:51 GMT

ObjectARx will run under Win98. I do all my development and testing under
Win98 and have no problems. Based on the errors that you have in your code
you may need to reboot the machine at times. No matter which operating
system you use you have to make sure it will work both down and with future
OSs as much as possible.

Thanks,
Lee Ambrosius
HyperPics, http://www.hyperpics.com

"MP" wrote in message
news:F20F1CF92B4EF70AB4B87D137A3CE73A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Thanks to both Alex and Art,
>
> looks like I've got some reading to do! 🙂 or is that 😞 ?
> oh yeah, not to mention upgrading...definitely 😞 !
>
> Alex Parshikov wrote in message
> news:F4B57511F8AF3945ABAF7DDEFF9C88D8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > If you're a _total_ novice to both, then you're not likely to learn
> > ObjectARX by random tweaking and trying. I strongly recommend
> "Programming
> > AutoCAD 2000 Using ObjectARX" by Charles McAuley (isbn: 0-7668-0643-x).
> It,
>
>
>

Re:

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:34:13 GMT

Thanks Lee for banishing the clouds of doubt!

Lee Ambrosius wrote in message
news:C923D163F3A4CE82DFD1776EF0F40EBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> ObjectARx will run under Win98. I do all my development and testing under
> Win98 and have no problems. Based on the errors that you have in your
code

Re: am I correct ObjectArx only runs on winnt/2000?

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:44:48 GMT

On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:16:50 -0700, "MP"
wrote:

>I see on the site to download the sdk that it is for nt.
>Does that mean it won't run on 98?
I regularly do ObjectARX development on Windows 98.

>I am total novice to c++ and objectArx so have no idea what to do to get
>started.
If you are a novuce to C++ you should really learn more
about C++ than jump straight into ARX, in my opinion....

------ Learn to program AutoCAD in C++ ------
http://www.ransen.com/cadcourse/cadcourse.htm

Re:

Anonymous — Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:33:03 GMT

I was under the impression that debugging an ObjectARX in an MDI environment
could crash AutoCAD on Win 98. Here's a quote from DevNote 56517 :

>>>>>>>
Question
When I run an ObjectARX application in DEBUG mode in Windows 95 and Windows
98,
why does AutoCAD lock up or terminate when I open a second document?

Answer
This is a limitation that Microsoft has documented. AutoCAD uses the
Microsoft
Fiber technology to run the multiple document interface. You cannot debug
AutoCAD with multiple documents on the Windows 95 and Windows 98 operating
systems (platforms).

Autodesk recommends that developers use Windows NT as their development
platform.
<<<<<<<

Cheers,

Stephen Preston
Developer Technical Services
Autodesk

"Lee Ambrosius" wrote in message
news:C923D163F3A4CE82DFD1776EF0F40EBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> ObjectARx will run under Win98. I do all my development and testing under
> Win98 and have no problems. Based on the errors that you have in your
code
> you may need to reboot the machine at times. No matter which operating
> system you use you have to make sure it will work both down and with
future
> OSs as much as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Lee Ambrosius
> HyperPics, http://www.hyperpics.com
>
> "MP" wrote in message
> news:F20F1CF92B4EF70AB4B87D137A3CE73A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Thanks to both Alex and Art,
> >
> > looks like I've got some reading to do! 🙂 or is that 😞 ?
> > oh yeah, not to mention upgrading...definitely 😞 !
> >
> > Alex Parshikov wrote in message
> > news:F4B57511F8AF3945ABAF7DDEFF9C88D8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > If you're a _total_ novice to both, then you're not likely to learn
> > > ObjectARX by random tweaking and trying. I strongly recommend
> > "Programming
> > > AutoCAD 2000 Using ObjectARX" by Charles McAuley (isbn:
0-7668-0643-x).
> > It,
> >
> >
> >
>
>