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Discrepancy between Matrix3d.Rotation and Matrix3D.RotateAt

dhaverstick — Tue, 09 Jun 2020 19:03:21 GMT

I'm trying to port some code from the AutoCAD API to a more generic .Net API and I found a discrepancy between two functions that are supposed to do the same thing.

In AutoCAD, I created an AutoCAD.Geometry.Matrix3d object and then rotated it about the Z Axis by AnglePhi (PI/8). Here's the code snippet.

Dim RotationMatrixZAxis As Autodesk.AutoCAD.Geometry.Matrix3d RotationMatrixZAxis = Autodesk.AutoCAD.Geometry.Matrix3d.Rotation(AnglePhi, New Autodesk.AutoCAD.Geometry.Vector3d(0, 0, 1), New Autodesk.AutoCAD.Geometry.Point3d(0, 0, 0))

The resultant element values from this operation are: 1,1 = 0.9238, 1,2 = -0.3826, 1,3 = 0, 2,1 = 0.3826, 2,2 = 0.9238, 2,3 = 0, 3,1 = 0, 3,2 = 0, 3,3 = 1

Now I do the same thing using the System.Windows.Media.Media3D library.

Dim RotationMatrixZAxis As New System.Windows.Media.Media3D.Matrix3D Dim MyQuaternion As New System.Windows.Media.Media3D.Quaternion(New Vector3D(0, 0, 1), AnglePhi * 180 / PI) RotationMatrixYAxis.RotateAt(MyQuaternion, New Point3D(0, 0, 0))

The resultant element values from this operation are: 1,1 = 0.9238, 1,2 = 0.3826, 1,3 = 0, 2,1 = -0.3826, 2,2 = 0.9238, 2,3 = 0, 3,1 = 0, 3,2 = 0, 3,3 = 1

Notice that the rotation matrix using the System.Windows.Media.Media3D library is the inverse of the rotation matrix using Autodesk.AutoCAD.Geometry

Can anyone explain to me why this is? My code porting project is stopped dead in its tracks until I get this little mystery solved.

Thanks in advance!

Darren Haverstick

Paul Mueller Company

Re: Discrepancy between Matrix3d.Rotation and Matrix3D.RotateAt

dhaverstick — Fri, 12 Jun 2020 13:29:55 GMT

To help illustrate what I am talking about, I have attached VS 2019 project that creates an AutoCAD addin. The addin is compiled for AutoCAD 2019. All source code is included.

To run the addin, use the NETLOAD command, navigate to the ".\bin\Release\" folder, and choose the library, "QuaternionAutoCADExample.dll". After the library is loaded, invoke the command, "RUNQUATERNIONEXAMPLE".

Darren Haverstick

Paul Mueller Company

Re: Discrepancy between Matrix3d.Rotation and Matrix3D.RotateAt

_gile — Sat, 13 Jun 2020 15:12:45 GMT

Hi,

From some tests I did,you're right. System.Windows.Media.Media3D represents the ~~inversed~~ transposed transformation matrix. But when you use it (e.g. apply it to a vector), it returns the same result as the Autodesk.AutoCAD.Geometry one.

See this example:

AcGe = Autodesk.AutoCAD.Geometry
WM3D = System.Windows.Media.Media3D

[CommandMethod("TEST")] public static void Test() { var ed = AcAp.DocumentManager.MdiActiveDocument.Editor; var m1 = AcGe.Matrix3d.Rotation(Math.PI / 8.0, AcGe.Vector3d.ZAxis, AcGe.Point3d.Origin); var v1 = new AcGe.Vector3d(3.0, 2.0, 0.0).TransformBy(m1); ed.WriteMessage($"\nAutoCAD\n{m1:0.000}\n{v1:0.000}"); var quaternion = new WM3D.Quaternion(new WM3D.Vector3D(0.0, 0.0, 1.0), 22.5); var m2 = new WM3D.Matrix3D(); m2.Rotate(quaternion); var v2 = WM3D.Vector3D.Multiply(new WM3D.Vector3D(3.0, 2.0, 0.0), m2); ed.WriteMessage($"\nMedia3D\n{m2:0.000}\n{v2:0.000}"); }

Output:

AutoCAD ((0.924,-0.383,0.000,0.000),(0.383,0.924,0.000,0.000),(0.000,0.000,1.000,0.000),(0.000,0.000,0.000,1.000)) (2.006,2.996,0.000) Media3D 0.924,0.383,0.000,0.000,-0.383,0.924,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,1.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,1.000 2.006,2.996,0.000

Re: Discrepancy between Matrix3d.Rotation and Matrix3D.RotateAt

dhaverstick — Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:59:20 GMT

Gilles, you are correct! I did not go any further in my testing because I wanted an explanation about the discrepancy first. It appears that it all works out in the end so no harm, no foul.

You are also correct that the correct term is one matrix is the transpose of the other. I'm not sure why the Media3D version uses a method called "Invert" to return the transpose.

Thanks for your help!

Darren Haverstick