topic Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10 in Maya Forum

No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

robogunx — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 10:24:14 GMT

Hello, my problem is that whenever I minimize a window inside Maya (Hypershade, Node Editor, UV Editor, etc.) they're nested at the bottom-left of the screen but there is no text displayed on them. In short... they're too short. This affects productivity because I'm wasting time finding the window I need.

Do the three window control buttons have to be so far apart? I realize this is the standard for Windows 10 UI design but can't it be overridden by an application? If they were closer together there would be space to render the window text.

This doesn't happen on Windows 7; there's usually at least the first letter of the window displayed which makes it easier to guess what to restore.

A picture to describe my issue is attached.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

neilcross — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 19:52:18 GMT

Having this same issue with 3ds Max. Also running windows 10.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 10:50:18 GMT

I'm having the same issue...it's annoying. Did you find a solution?

Cheers

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

robogunx — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 14:21:52 GMT

Unfortunately, no.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

halfstone — Thu, 15 Mar 2018 21:27:53 GMT

This is a GREAT question - and a TREMENDOUSLY aggravating problem. I don't recall ever having seen these windows labeled in any version or on any OS, but if you say it was there in Windows 7, I believe you. I'm posting on this question just to elevate it; hopefully someone who can fix it will notice.

There is nothing worse than having a string of minimized windows - render view, outliner, hypershade, node editor ... and having to sit and try to guess which one is which. Better to just assign hotkeys to them at this point, or stick them on a shelf.

As an alternative to the control icon spacing, maybe the windows could have the specific window icon displayed instead of the Maya Icon.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:34:20 GMT

Minimized Maya windows have of course always had some text on them, otherwise how could you possible differentiate between them.... Oh wait Microsoft says that's not necessary. I hope Autodesk will address this very serious problem immediately.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

andreas.olofsson — Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:31:43 GMT

Bumping this BS. Tired of working in the dark.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

starcitizen — Mon, 04 Nov 2019 16:15:29 GMT

This is driving me NUTS! I have finally just stopped minimizing windows and opening them from the menus the old slow way. Fix this Autodesk!

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

jordan.giboney — Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:53:24 GMT

Hi everyone,

Thank you for taking the time to post about this topic. I have gotten in touch with our internal teams and they are aware of this issue and are working towards a resolution. We appreciate you taking the time to provide this feedback, and if you would like to provide any additional details I would recommend posting to our Maya Idea Station.

Thank you again for your time!

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

stevedavy — Mon, 04 Nov 2019 19:14:58 GMT

Great to get a response on this.... AFTER MORE THAN A YEAR. Seriously, this was flagged by me personally well over a year ago when they moved to Windows 10 at the place I was working three jobs ago. This isn't even my original post about this -- someone else has also had to start one to try to get any kind of action. With such a MAJOR problem with the UI that literally prevents users from being able to work in Maya, one would expect Autodesk to escalate a fix for something like this ASAP. Now after a year, we are getting a platitudinous "we're aware of the problem and looking at it". Simply not good enough.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

starcitizen — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 03:50:11 GMT

Can I ask, do you work on laptop, tablet, or desktop? I'm wondering if it might be screen real estate/resolution related. Me, I work on a laptop currently. 3 Jobs ago?! You must work in games huh?

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

halfstone — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 04:00:50 GMT

Actually, I am a teacher at a university. This problem has persisted through Maya 2017, 2018, and 2019, and has nothing to do with screen real estate, though that may have been my first thought when I first experienced the problem two years ago. I seem to remember trying out all sorts of screen resolutions in hopes that that was the problem.

It's a programming error, as confirmed by Jordan Giboney of Autodesk Support.

I work on all sorts of machines. I have a laptop, but I almost never use it for Maya except to open and look at student work. At home I have a desktop machine with two monitors and a Cintiq; at school I work on a single monitor with a Cintiq.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

halfstone — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 04:05:16 GMT

Jordan, thank you for finally acknowledging and addressing this problem - it is a major slowdown to have to pick through several identical minimized icons before hitting upon the one for the desired window. I suppose the smart folks out there bypassed the problem by assigning hotkeys to windows, but even though a workaround is possible, it really shouldn't be.

I would respectfully request that you do whatever you can to accelerate a fix for this - the problem first appeared in v. 2017, and there have been multiple full- and dot-releases since then. It should really be a priority for the QC team.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

mspeer — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:48:59 GMT

Hi!

This is a Windows 10 specific issue so people user an older Windows OS may not have this problem.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

stevedavy — Tue, 05 Nov 2019 20:09:22 GMT

That's why the title of this thread is No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Feb 2021 20:57:37 GMT

Hi,

you might solve this problem with a software tool called "Actual Title Button"

https://www.actualtools.com/titlebuttons/

Cheers

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

stevedavy — Wed, 10 Feb 2021 21:04:26 GMT

You gotta be kidding, right?

This is on the software developers at Autodesk to address. And, this problem has now been around for three years.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Feb 2021 09:38:44 GMT

Hi,

you are right - others wrong...

That's the game of ego, I know it from my own experience

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

stevedavy — Thu, 11 Feb 2021 19:48:52 GMT

If there's any ego involved, it's yours (as you've already pointed out).

It should not be necessary to resort to third party software to fix a glaring user experience error that's been around ever since Windows 10 was released, especially an error that was previously not an issue.

It's also not what this site is intended for.

If you follow your logic to its natural conclusion, we might as well all switch to a different 3D app entirely.

Re: No text on minimized windows inside Maya 2017 on Windows 10

bamorim — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 09:13:48 GMT

still nothing?