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XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Jan 2018 23:10:59 GMT

Hello,

Is there a way to create clumps using guide curves?

This would allow us to manually place guides and/or clump which would ease the process of matching references.

It would provide better deformation results when sculpting the guides and when applying animation or simulation to guide curves.

Generate guide curves using clump positions would be nice as well!

Thanks

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

sean.heasley — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:11:46 GMT

Hi @Anonymous and welcome to the community!

Unfortunately using guides as clumps is not available yet in 2018.

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Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 21:13:07 GMT

Hi Sean,

Thanks for the prompt reply!

Is it possible to know if this is currently being worked on or if it's part of the XGen roadmap?

I wish we could get this in 2018.3!!!

Best regards,

Renaud

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

sean.heasley — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:44:16 GMT

Hi @Anonymous

At this time I can't disclose what is coming in future updates of Maya but when I get the ok to do so I'll be sure to let you know!

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 23:20:41 GMT

I 've been using x gen interactive grooming for a while there is an option in old x- gen to use splines point on surface to set is as guid densiti map. I couldn't find it in newer modul. But I managed to plug in the generetated groom as splines guides. Also for clumps I use multiple grooming guides with masked out area and multiple splines sorunging the area to form it into clump. I find it better then redion as I can blend it between object. Is there a way to recive the info about the point of the curve to plug it in as clump point?

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 13:47:47 GMT

No available in Maya 2020 yet xD.

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

green.sharpener — Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:34:06 GMT

yeah, it's super irritating 😞

this feature has been asked for 3 years now, and no response from the development team.

nice job, autodesk

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 16:42:59 GMT

I came across this trick to get around that:

https://jesusfc.net/igs-guide-clump-trick/

I've tried and it works only if you generate the guides directly from Interactive Groom which is great if that is your workflow. But if your guides are converted from curves (Conversion from Core XGen to Interactive Groom workflow) , then unfortunately it won't work.

Cheers

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

green.sharpener — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 07:56:52 GMT

yes, I saw this too

unfortunately, but yes, it works only along the guides created within IGS and even with it some bugs appear.

for instance, the newly created guides will shift and distort already existing ones

there is a sort of solution to this (turn off the interpolation on the base node in igs) but this works with 70% of success in earlier versions of maya, in maya 2020 - it doesn't

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

giandosopaolo — Tue, 25 May 2021 11:26:19 GMT

It's 2021

Autodesk .. any update?

This feature is useful and has been requested for years. Give us a sign. Or if you don't plan to ever implement it at least let us know.

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

ZachGray — Tue, 15 Aug 2023 02:56:28 GMT

I'd bet xgen is dead and they won't touch it until bifrost gets brush tools.

I happened across this old thread exporting some data to UE. To get JesusFC input points method to work in 2023, the number of CV's on groom and inGuide need to match.

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

770715426 — Wed, 24 Apr 2024 04:57:56 GMT

这个方法确实有效，版本是maya2024，使用导入的曲线作为导向，将这两个节点连接之后也有效，但是guide的cv点和hair的cv点要一致

Re: XGen Interactive Groom - guides and clumps

romjke86 — Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:22:09 GMT

Hello, I did the clumping by guides with node editor, but after each save the scene (cntrl+s) the guides getting smoother and smoother 😁. Anybody know how to fix this?

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chance_qc — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 07:08:26 GMT

It's 2026 now, does this feature still exist?