topic Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied in Inventor Forum

Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

steve_lindley — Thu, 11 Aug 2022 11:19:42 GMT

Hi. Using Inventor Professional 2023.1.

I've only just noticed in the last day or so that when I apply a Half Section View, my model tab above the browser pane disappears and I have to re-instate it. Seems to be the case with any assembly.

I've posted a Screencast of an example.

https://autode.sk/3JJOOTM

Anyone else experiencing this?

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

j.palmeL29YX — Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:11:28 GMT

Here I can not see what you're reclaiming about.

Perhaps I misunderstood your problem? I can not open your screencast.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

steve_lindley — Thu, 11 Aug 2022 11:24:41 GMT

@j.palmeL29YX Thanks for taking a look. Not sure what happened with the screencast, but you should now see a link in my original post.

Ultimately, in an .iam, from the View ribbon, I click on Half Section View, select any plane, apply a value and finish. My Model tab disappears and I have to add it back to the browser pane.

This is not true of any other section view.

I hope you can see this.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

CGBenner — Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:18:02 GMT

@steve_lindley

That is so weird. Thanks for the video. I am also unable to reproduce this. I wonder if it has anything to do with any iLogic rules you may have in this model. I noticed that when Model tab disappears, the View jumps to the Rules tab. Try this same exercise in an assembly that doesn't have any iLogic maybe?

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

steve_lindley — Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:58:10 GMT

@CGBenner That's an interesting suggestion. Before this problem showed up, I had seen a couple of issues with the ilogic tab too but quite minor really.

In my own particular way, I prefer to have my Model tab on the left and the ilogic tab to the right. At some point with 2023, I noticed that no matter how many times I tried setting it that way round, the iLogic tab always jumped to the left. I just accepted it as a bug and left it that way round. Doesn't stop me getting on.

Also, you'll be able to see from the screencast that there are two identically named folders in the Manually Added section of the iLogic tab. In the top one I have a list of probably 10 rules that I use regularly. It was just this one folder originally, but recently I needed to add a new rule and for some reason when I added it I got a new folder. Again, doesn't stop me getting on with my work, so I just accepted it, but there's clearly something funky going on with my tabs.

Just a point to note. The rules you see are all external. I don't have any rules in the parts or assemblies. I'll try removing the rules and report back later.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

johnsonshiue — Thu, 11 Aug 2022 22:02:17 GMT

Hi! This is probably related to NASTRAN Add-In. Here is a similar discussion. The defect was reported as NASMECH-4404.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/issue-with-disapearing-model-tree/m-p/11318253

The latest status shows it will be fixed in NASTRAN 2023.2 update.

Many thanks!

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

steve_lindley — Fri, 12 Aug 2022 07:13:40 GMT

@johnsonshiue Aha! That explains it! I downloaded Nastran just over a week ago and I've been using it daily and it explains why it's the same on another PC in the office.

Many thanks. I look forward to the update....

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

teknikresim2 — Thu, 01 Sep 2022 07:56:09 GMT

Hello; tools-add.ins menu. remove nastran load automatically. then restart the inverter. it will be fixed.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

steve_lindley — Fri, 02 Sep 2022 06:03:50 GMT

@teknikresim2 Thanks for your suggestion. Unfortunately, at the moment I'm using Nastran quite a bit, so this doesn't help yet, but I'll keep it mind once the FEA is finished.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

davenport_jl — Wed, 21 Sep 2022 22:00:46 GMT

I am running IV2023.1.1 without Nastran installed and I have the same issue when I select half selection view the model browser closes down and I have select it again to make it visible.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

davenport_jl — Wed, 21 Sep 2022 22:02:12 GMT

I am running IV2023.1.1 without Nastran installed and I have the same issue when I select half selection view the model browser closes down and I have select it again to make it visible.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

davenport_jl — Wed, 21 Sep 2022 22:12:49 GMT

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

chadhQZ262 — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:32:32 GMT

I get the model tab disappearing act if using section view.

I use Nastran regularly.

My iLogic tab stays when the Model Browser disappears.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

davenport_jl — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:54:09 GMT

I have seen the messages indicating that the issue may be a linked to the Nastran product, I do not use or have Nastran installed on my PC.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

florian_baillifard — Mon, 24 Oct 2022 13:27:47 GMT

My colleague and some customers have the same problem with Inventor 2023.1.1 and "Inventor Nastran 2023.1.0.42 or 2023.1.2"
It is very annoying, please fix it a s soon as possible. Thank you.

Re: Model tab disappears when Half Section View is applied

johnsonshiue — Mon, 24 Oct 2022 23:44:48 GMT

Hi! The latest status shows that the defect NASMECH-4404 has been fixed on the coming Inventor NASTRAN 2023.2 update. Once it becomes available, please install it.

Many thanks