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Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

MatsNorway1 — Wed, 22 Mar 2023 12:30:00 GMT

So i select the face and i put down a centermark. Then i select the punch tool button and get this menu.

Allright cool you might think, it got a few defaults within default folder or something, but none is seen in menu so you click browse, and tada.. you end up in a random folder.. with no punch tool presets.

And i have tried to make punch tools before, its horrible.

So if you got a chunk of punch tool defaults lying around and do not mind sharing them i would love to get going. As i get familiar with punch tools i will hopefully learn over time how they are built.

If you want spesifics i am just trying to punch down a face for a rivnut so a component can go past and the rivnut can be within that sliding face.

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

CCarreiras — Wed, 22 Mar 2023 12:39:18 GMT

Hi!

The punches are in a default folder.

Probably you use one punch from another folder and this location stood in memory.

The default location is:

C:\Users\Public\Documents\Autodesk\Inventor 2023\Catalog\Punches\

If you need a punch, design the geometry in a part and share it here. we try to help to turn the geometry into a punch.

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

CGBenner — Wed, 22 Mar 2023 12:43:38 GMT

@MatsNorway1

Check under Application Options\iFeature\Punch Tools. Can you share a picture of what is in this path?

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

Frederick_Law — Wed, 22 Mar 2023 12:59:45 GMT

So you need a hole and emboss.

Model that and you can make it iFeature or Punch.

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

MatsNorway1 — Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:11:38 GMT

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

Frederick_Law — Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:19:58 GMT

Did you copy the files in the original iFeature\Punches folder?

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

MatsNorway1 — Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:46:57 GMT

No, as pr installation not including Vault setup.

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

Frederick_Law — Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:17:15 GMT

Well, with no files in there and you expect to find something in an empty folder? 🙄

The folder setup in your IV is not default installation location.

User or Admin need to copy the correct files there.

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

MatsNorway1 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:54:14 GMT

I have not tried to use punch tools in months perhaps a year. If its that hostile towards its users its not good.

I am the user, i have admin rights. I can/could fix this with a tutorial that makes sense. If i get the time.

Summary: Punch tool is bad, and everyone hates Fusion 360 for mechanical design

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

JDMather — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 12:03:28 GMT

@MatsNorway1 wrote:

Summary: Punch tool is bad, and everyone hates Fusion 360 for mechanical design

@MatsNorway1

How much training have you had in using these tools?

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

MatsNorway1 — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 06:23:28 GMT

Inventor>Fusion 360 (according to seemingly every user that has done work or done studies using both)

Re: Why is punch tools so manual and hostile towards beginners?

Frederick_Law — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 13:13:39 GMT

@MatsNorway1 wrote:
I am the user, i have admin rights. I can/could fix this with a tutorial that makes sense. If i get the time.

Hmmm, you need tutorial to copy files from one folder to another? 🤔

Someone (user or admin) set a new folder location for the Punch (iFeature) and did not copy the required files.

Of course you can create new punches.

I made a few already.

Also some SAE ports.

https://help.autodesk.com/view/INVNTOR/2023/ENU/?guid=GUID-1A5F9CD1-80A8-4462-894A-4D8C9DFCDB51

https://help.autodesk.com/view/INVNTOR/2023/ENU/?guid=GUID-C2D08AAD-D86D-4720-96E4-8E0DA7374BE9