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Generating punch tool: Flip orientation

meke42 — Fri, 24 Mar 2023 09:12:49 GMT

I want to generate a punch tool and it's giving me a lot of headache on how to generate it in such a way that I can use it on various orientations. Somehow I seem to mess up some reference geometry and the tool later tries to reorient on that. What happens is the following:

I want something like this (original part which I export via Manage -> Extract iFeature

Which often works fine on some faces:

But beware if you change the face from YZ to XY orientation: then, suddenly depending on the the orientation of the punch relative to the face (i.e., on which side you place the sketch with the point that I use to locate the punch on the face) it generates this mess:

Creating the iFeature was done with these selections:

I added the required files to this post. What do I do wrong? I would like to have the punch in such a way that it always works, independent of the orientation of the face relative to the coordinate system as well as the direction of extrusion of the face, etc.

Edit: I tired to attach the *.ide File I generated with the settings above too, but for some reason this page doesn't allow me to do that because "the file extension does not match the file type". What does that mean?

Re: Generating punch tool: Flip orientation

JDMather — Fri, 24 Mar 2023 09:51:34 GMT

@meke42

Right click on the *.ide and select Send to Compressed (*.zip). Attach the *.zip file.

Re: Generating punch tool: Flip orientation

meke42 — Fri, 24 Mar 2023 10:12:56 GMT

The *.ide packed into a zip file.

Re: Generating punch tool: Flip orientation

johnsonshiue — Fri, 24 Mar 2023 22:17:42 GMT

Hi! I believe it has something to do with how Work Plane2 was defined. Work Plane2 was not an angled workplane. It is probably done by selecting a sketch line and a parallel face. I redefined it by selecting the straight line and the sheet metal face and set the angle to 90 deg. Also, I deleted the vertical constraint in Sketch4 (optional). Then the punchtool seems to work better. Please try it out.

Many thanks!

Re: Generating punch tool: Flip orientation

meke42 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 11:27:21 GMT

Hello johnsonshiue,

could you share the respective file? I'm not able to reproduce what you did.

The vertical constraint in Sketch4 I could eliminate. If I understood you correctly, I should generate the workplane via this: ("angle to plane around edge")

where I then select the centerline of the rectangle in Sketch4 as well as the upper (in z direction) face of the sheet metal surface. I get the workplane and everything, however, I can now not even export the punch anymore:

since it doesn't allow me to click "save" anymore. Also it now requires two position geometries (Profile Plane1 and Profile Plane 2) and I have absolutely no idea why.

I originally exactly followed the way it was done in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsXl4TAyxE&ab_channel=TeamD3

Re: Generating punch tool: Flip orientation

johnsonshiue — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 23:57:55 GMT

Hi! Here you go! Besides deleting the horizontal constraint in Sketch4, I also delete the projected origin point. Please see attached file.

Many thanks!