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Inventor 2013 Wish List?

FProcp — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 02:52:11 GMT

I would like to be able to move parts/assemblies around in Inventor very quickly but very accurately.

Like you can move something in AutoCAD.

When you go into the move command it would be nice to be able to enter exact x,y or z values for movement.

Maybe it could be added to the "Grip Snap" function where you select an edge on the part or something, or the x,y,z axis and move an inputed distance.

I think it would be beneficial to be able to quickly and accurately move parts around before starting to apply assembly constraints?

I know you can do quite a bit with "Grip Snap" and from iproperties "Current Offset From..." but I'm not sure if it's simple and quick?

Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

FProcp — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 08:29:28 GMT

It would be nice to be able to extrude between two points just like you can extrude between two planes.

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JDMather — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:25:19 GMT

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=1109794

http://forums.augi.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1203

Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

FProcp — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:24:21 GMT

Thank-you for the hyperlinks.

I realise "Grip Snap" can move objects along selected edges by an inputed amount so maybe I should with-draw the first request to move objects quickly, accurately and easily.

But it would be nice to have a triad like the one in 3D sketching for moving objects.

Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

Anonymous — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:36:10 GMT

Not sure why this would be needed with Inventor. There are more important needs out there I think.

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FProcp — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:50:45 GMT

If you're talking about the move command, I'm just looking for an easier/quicker way to place/locate parts in an assembly before having to use assembly constraints. Assembly constraining is my least favourite activity in Inventor. Sometimes I have a whole lot of assembly constraints in a complex assembly and I want to move something and working out which assembly constraint affects which is so annoying Sometimes I just want to delete them all and start all over again. Being able to easily move parts quickly and accurately would be very nice.

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Anonymous — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:54:15 GMT

If you want to just move the part, just click and drag it.

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FProcp — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 22:13:49 GMT

ACCURATELY? I wonder if it would be useful if you could use the precise move/rotate triad and it had a command in it where you could pick "From Reference Point" and then it would give you the difference in x, y, & z from a point on another object which you could then adjust the value of? This may be useful for Grounded Points too where you could move one grounded point relative to another point or object accurately?

Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

Anonymous — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 23:06:53 GMT

I'm kinda lost as to what you might be attempting to do here.

Am I right in thinking you want to be able to insert a part into an assembly and then be able to move it into place (or close to it) without having to use constraints like Mate, Insert, etc?

Something more accurate than "eyeballing" it.

I assume you want to do this as a sort of trial and error process to see how well things will fit together?

The thing that worries me is the statement above about hating the process of assembly constraints. This throws up a huge red flag for me. Assembly constraints should be a breeze for the most part if the assembly was put together using best practices. The most common mistake I see with assembly constraints are users constraining to part edges or faces, etc. and then have an edit happen to a part and the assembly "blows up".

The most common of these I've seen are users constraining bolt hole patterns to the edge of a cylindrical part and then fillet or chamfer that same edge which then blows the bolt hole pattern to outer space. Common sense tells you that edge is no now longer there, it's been replaced by the fillet or chamfer. Why so many people don't grasp that puzzles me.

So I have to ask, is the assembly built with "best practices"....constraining parts/subassemblies to the files planes and axis as opposed to those of other parts/subassemblies or edges/surfaces of the parts. etc?

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DVDM — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 04:16:32 GMT

I must say I'm with FProcp on this one.

Constraints are all very well up to a certain point, after that they can get in the way and become time consuming to apply, and ofcourse the problems caused by sick constraints, and the increasing slowness of every operation because all these contraints need to be evaluated.

I would love it if in the assembly environment I had a UCS that I could manipulate just like you can in AutoCAD, to accurately move/copy/rotate parts & subassemblies, and be able to use snaps to put things in place. It'd be nice to have the same capability in the sketch environment by the way, and be able to do without parameters and constraints if I choose to.

Solid Edge with their synchronous technology has interesting tools that allow for accurate manipulation of components within an assembly without the need for constraints.

Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

FProcp — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 04:32:51 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
I must say I'm with FProcp on this one.
Constraints are all very well up to a certain point, after that they can get in the way and become time consuming

Very well said. This is exactly how I feel.

I've worked on large assemblies (created by others) and have been so frustrated with Assembly Constraints.

I think it would be a BIG improvement. Solid Edge have done it so it can't be just me that feels this way.

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FProcp — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:01:24 GMT

Imagine trying to place all of the assembly constraints on a model like the one in the attached picture?

I would rather move components to the right location and then ground them.

Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:04:27 GMT

Native parallel processing and cuda support throughtout the whole program. Jeez it's about time I am so tired of having a six core proccessor and having to wait while my single core chews up the math. I mean get parallel processing going and get those cuda cores chewing up numbers so I can get some work done.

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richiesuk — Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:35:43 GMT

nice dream 😄

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richiesuk — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:00:47 GMT

hi,

is there any official voting list? or any news for new ideas / features?

thanks,

ric

Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

RogerMollon — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:31:14 GMT

ric,

Yes it's here:

http://www.augi.com/wishlist

If you haven't signed up with the user group yet, you'll need to do that, then you can add and vote on what you want.

I hope this helps,

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cmcconnell — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:50:45 GMT

"Imagine trying to place all of the assembly constraints on a model like the one in the attached picture?

I would rather move components to the right location and then ground them."

If one of my people built an assembly like that by locating parts in space and grounding them, I would fire them. That would make that assembly impossible to work with in the future.

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Anonymous — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:04:09 GMT

I agree. Grounding = Horrible Practice = Fired!!!

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cmcconnell — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:06:23 GMT

Don't get me wrong - We use grounding all the time - but all of our parts are driven with a skeleton, so constraints are unneccessary in some cases. It is the locating parts in space that I have a problem with.

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Anonymous — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:08:51 GMT

Grounding should never be used. Period.