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model section view display in drawing .idw

jefferyjensen — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:00:50 GMT

Hello Inventor Users,

How do I preserve my model section views in an .ipt when creating a drawing .idw? My end goal is to the create isometric section view in the drawing.

Background:

Attached is an image from Basic Technical Drawing 8th by Spencer, Fig. 12-38 on p. 272 I recreated in Inventor 2015 (see attachment). I'm able to create the section view in the model using Autodesk Inventor Help (http://help.autodesk.com/view/INVNTOR/2015/ENU/?guid=GUID-6810CA07-80AD-4789-A3B5-192A6069267F but the saved view isn't preserved when I go the drawing .idw.

thanks,

Jeff Jensen

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

JDMather — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:21:15 GMT

In Inventor you model parts.

Then all else is derived from the parts.

The drawing views are derived from the part - that is where you create your section (and all other 2D) views.

Section views created from the View tab are for visual purposes only.

If you have prior experience with Creo (Pro/E) Inventor works differently.

Create your 2D section view in the 2D drawing file.

Have you installed Service Pack 1 and Update 2?

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

JDMather — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:10:53 GMT

Sometimes you need to create views off the printed page to generate the desired views.

(see attached files)

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

jefferyjensen — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:25:01 GMT

Hello JDMather,

Thanks for the help with this.

How can I tell if a service pack is installed? Mine shows Update 2 but I can't tell is a service pack is installed.

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

blair — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:58:19 GMT

All SP's and Updates installed are in the Windows Control Panel>Programs and Features>View Installed Updates.

Follow JD's post on the section view.

Sometimes you need to trick Inventor when dealing with parts, just place the part in a new IAM and use the Assembly Feature Cut and do your section view. Then place it in your drawing for the Sliced Iso View.

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

jefferyjensen — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:46:35 GMT

Hello Blair,

thanks for the reply. Just a follow up, I cannot find Assemble > Feature > Cut in http://help.autodesk.com/view/INVNTOR/2015/ENU/ or in Inventor 2015. Would you please give me some more details? I placed the part in an assembly (.iam) but don't know the next step your saying to make the section view. Note I was able to do View > Appearance panel > Three Quarter Section View and this created the section view, but when I added the part to a drawing, again the sectioning wasn't preserved.

thanks for the help,

Jeff Jensen

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

JDMather — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:58:10 GMT

@jefferyjensen wrote:

.... I cannot find Assemble > Feature > Cut .... ....,

Jeff Jensen

Not sure why you want this, but you can go to 3D Model tab in assembly and Extrude, Revolve or Sweep Cut.

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

jefferyjensen — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:24:38 GMT

Hello JDMather

Thanks for the followup. I'm trying to follow Blair's suggestion

"...use the Assembly Feature Cut and do your section view. Then place it in your drawing for the Sliced Iso View."

Since I don't know how to do this, been relying on yours and Blairs experience.

thanks again for the help,

Jeff Jensen

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

blair — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:24:55 GMT

You will need to create a Sketch in the Assembly, no different than in a Part.

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

jefferyjensen — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:57:58 GMT

Hello Blair and JDMather,

here is a video on how I created the part (.ipt) and used the model section views. It is my understanding the only way to create drawing isometric sections views is

1. JDMather tip - to make section views outside the drawing. Still trying to get this to work.

2. Blair's tip - to create the part in an assembly (.iam) instead of part model (.ipt). Then place in a drawing (.ipt) and the assigned model section views will show up. I'm unable to get this to work. The model section views are not preserved. Are you suggesting to actual cut the model? If yes, I don't think that is a wise idea and would go back to JDMather's tip.

thanks,

Jeff Jensen

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

blair — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:19:40 GMT

Assembly features only live at the assembly level and don't propagate to the part level. I have uploaded a video to Autodesk's ScreenCast at the following link. This will show how the Assemble Feature Cut doesn't affect the Part.

https://screencast.autodesk.com/main/details/1373af39-c50f-4bda-94ca-854fbdccba27

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

jefferyjensen — Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:53:21 GMT

Hello Blair and JDMather,

thanks for the help on this. Attached is video showing how to create a new part (45° Elbow from Technical Drawing with Engineering Graphics 14th by Giesecke, et.al) and make the sectional view using the Blair method (physically cut the part in an assembly which doesn't alter the original part, then add the assembly to the drawing).

thanks again,

Jeff Jensen

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

blair — Fri, 19 Dec 2014 23:07:34 GMT

The link I provided was to a ScreenCast video that had all the steps in detail for this. Glad it worked for you.

Re: model section view display in drawing .idw

WHolzwarth — Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:20:08 GMT

Here's a similar way, but using a derived part instead of an assy. Files in 2013

Walter