topic Re: Database Schema in Inventor Forum

Database Schema

chris66 — Fri, 15 May 2015 20:16:22 GMT

Yesterday, I created a file on this computer. Today it will not open on the same computer.. I understand that normally I'd get this message if I were trying to open a new file with an older IV version. Unfortunately, that is not the case with this file. Why would IV create a file and give it a newer database schema than what's running on the compjuter that created it?

What gives Autodesk??? I'm shut down on this file!!

Inventor 2016

Re: Database Schema

JDMather — Fri, 15 May 2015 20:36:44 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Yesterday, I created a file on this computer.

Can you attach the file here?

Re: Database Schema

ChrisMitchell01 — Fri, 15 May 2015 21:51:52 GMT

That's strange Chris,

Build 20 version 96 was an internal Autodesk build for 2016 which wasn't generally released - I'd be interested to see the file too. You certain you weren't using an old 2016 Beta version or something ?

-Chris

Re: Database Schema

SBix26 — Sun, 17 May 2015 01:52:54 GMT

The message you show clearly says that you're trying to open a version 20 (2016) file with version 19 (2015) software. Are you absolutely sure that you didn't start 2015 by mistake? How are you opening the file?

Sam B

Inventor Professional 2015 SP2
Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit, SP1
HP EliteBook 8770w; 8 GB RAM; Core™ i7-3720QM 2.60 GHz; Quadro K4000M

Re: Database Schema

chris66 — Sun, 17 May 2015 14:24:46 GMT

Sorry all. I WAS opening with 2015. I have deleted that version to not make this mistake again!

Re: Database Schema

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:58:54 GMT

BUT, that Autodesk forces users to be using the latest version by doing this at all -- absolutely across the board -- is wholeheartedly unacceptable. Anyone working on a team or as part of a collaboration will invariably be needing to use the latest version as a *greatest* common denominator effect. I'm this minute being burned by this and it feels very much like an abuse of power. If the Autodesk folks really need to force people to upgrade, at least maintain back-compatibility for the previous one or two versions for Pete's sake. ~Justine Haupt Large Synoptic Survey Telescope Instrumentation Division Brookhaven National Laboratory 631.344.2114

Re: Database Schema

JDMather — Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:04:13 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
...Autodesk forces ...

SolidWorks and Creo do the same thing.

But not to worry, it looks like everyone is moving away from perpetual license to subscription license - so everyone will be up-to-date.

Neutral format and direct editing might be a solution, unless everything was done incorrectly.

Re: Database Schema

mslosar — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 22:38:07 GMT

To me that's the larger issue with this.

We're now getting it as well on some files and I can't find a trace of Inventor 2016 here. But, like I said, the larger issue seems to be what you said. This is an Internal Autodesk build that shouldn't have been out in the public. So, why then are a number of people getting that specific error message?

This will be an empty assembly file if it can be opened, but i'll attach it anyhow. If we were to save this in 2016, then try to open in 2015, shouldn't the error message then contain the build number of the released 2016? or the build number of one of it's updates and not that of an Internal build?

Re: Database Schema

ChrisMitchell01 — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 23:07:17 GMT

Interesting - your iam file was definitely created with 2015 SP2 but last saved with 2016 build 96; I recall that was what we provided as a build for some testing activites during the 2016 Beta2 timeframe almost a year ago.

If you save it in 2016 & then try to open it in 2015 then it will show an error which states the schema information that it was saved with not necessarily the build number. iProperties Details is what shows the build number info.

Attached is that file saved from Inventor 2016 SP1. You can try to open it in 2015 & see the schema info. If you right click on it & go to iProperties, Details tab, you will notice that the last 3 fields are blank - this is generally a way to know that you're trying to read info from a file which was last saved in a build newer than what you have installed.

Unless you move to 2016 then you can't use these files natively. It would be interesting to know where they came from.

Thanks

Chris

Re: Database Schema

mslosar — Mon, 09 Nov 2015 14:31:12 GMT

Says the same thing...

Database schema for file is (20.0 (Build 200096000, 96)), which is newer than this version (19.0 SP2 (Build 190223200, 223)) of the software.

and there is 3 spaces between file and is for some reason.

Second line says:

Database schema for file C:\Users\<my user name>\Downloads\file is saved in 2016SP1 .iam is (20.0 Build 200096000, 96)), which is newer than this version (19.0 SP2 (Build 190223200, 223)) of the software.

Re: Database Schema

JDMather — Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:07:36 GMT

@mslosar wrote:

...C:\Users\<my user name>\Downloads\file is .....

Multiple threads on same topic causes confusion.

What is the source of this Downloads?

Re: Database Schema

mslosar — Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:32:58 GMT

That's the resaved file that Chris sent me. He saved it in 2016 SP1 and asked me to see what it said when I opened it. I think he wanted to see if it updated the build number of the version that saved it (which it did not).

And, I know the multiple topic thing. I responded to one in general about the error and then I saw the thread that specifically dealt with the file and that I wasn't seeing anything and responded there as well. My apologies. It only started showing up for us last week and we cannot figure out what is causing it. As far as I or IT can tell, no one should have Inventor 2016 here.