topic Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models in Inventor Forum

Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

emste9534 — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 13:09:03 GMT

Hi, I'm new to Inventor so I apologize if this is a dumb question.

I'm trying to make different model states of a clasp in opened and closed position (assembly). My problem is that all changes I do in one model state (including just moving a part) are made in all the other model states as well. The only changes that are not made globally is adding new components, these new components can then be modified independently in the model state.

I've tried toggling edit scope to factory mode and back again without any luck.

Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

Gabriel_Watson — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 13:59:32 GMT

You will need to use Positional Representations to show these different positions:
https://help.autodesk.com/view/INVNTOR/2024/ENU/?guid=GUID-34C28C35-45CA-4476-9336-30146F7C9471

Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

johnsonshiue — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:03:19 GMT

Hi! Inventor Model States is level specific. For example, if you have a non-Primary Model State in an assembly, it will affect parameters or features at the assembly level, not at the part level. If you want to capture changes in the part, you need to create non-Primary Model States in the individual parts.

I suspect your configuration go across levels. Model States is not a solution for that type of configuration. You should look into iLogic. Essentially, you focus on building one variation of the seed model (iam and ipt files). Then use iLogic rule to drive parameter changes. Once you have another configuration, use iLogic Design Copy to spawn the variation.

Many thanks!

Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

SBix26 — Thu, 14 Sep 2023 21:53:44 GMT

Model States of an assembly can control constraints much like positional representations. Can you attach an example assembly dataset here? Tell us or show us what you're trying to achieve, and what version of Inventor you're using.

Sam B

Inventor Pro 2024.1.1 | Windows 10 Home 22H2

Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

dg2405 — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 10:59:46 GMT

I don't think that modelstates can handle the same as posreps, is this a bug or right (IV2023.4.1)?

(view in My Videos)

Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

gperri1 — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 11:47:49 GMT

Maybe you have iLogic rules that set a value for the parameter in the constraint?

If no, it seems to be a bug

Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

dg2405 — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 12:30:25 GMT

There isn't any rule

@johnsonshiue please check this problem and open a case.

Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

johnsonshiue — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 21:14:14 GMT

Hi! I am sorry the video is a bit blurry. If possible, please share the files in zip here or send it to me directly johnson.shiue@autodesk.com. I am more than happy to take a look at the issue to understand the Model States behavior better. The only limitation in terms of positioning in Model States is the ability to control Flexible status and retain component occurrence position (iProperties -> Occurrence -> Offsets).

Many thanks!

Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

dg2405 — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:58:41 GMT

Here is a better video for understanding:

(view in My Videos)

Re: Edits I make in modelstate affect all models

johnsonshiue — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 23:38:45 GMT

Hi! I am sorry I guess my eye sight is deteriorating. The new video still looks blurry to me. If possible, please share the files in zip with me directly johnson.shiue@autodesk.com.

Many thanks!