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Holes on model

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 04:14:45 GMT

I have to make holes on model for that I wish to use HOLE tool. I made it but have many doubts. Dimension of the hole is given I need help to feed dimensions in hole dialog box. Particularly I don't have clue how to use depth 0.160

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WHolzwarth — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 05:40:44 GMT

Use 90° angle instead of 45° in both cases. And compare dimension 2.100 with your input in Sketch6

Walter

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Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:14:53 GMT

There is slope between outer diameter and inner diameter which is given in the hole dimension. I couldn’t understand your 90 degree suggestion.

I have seen you had align the UCS as you want. We use 3 point option in AutoCAD please tell me the similar tool in Inventor.

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swalton — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:32:47 GMT

Inventor assigns a local coordinate system when you create a sketch. You can edit it after you exit the sketch. RMB on the sketch in the browser and select "Edit Coordinate System".

If you add a feature above a sketch in the model tree that disrupts the edges and vertex that Inventor picked for the sketch, you will have to use this command to repair the damage.

I don't normally use a sketch to locate a hole feature. I use a sketch when I need to define the hole location with features/edges that are hard to grab with the hole tools.

I also like to pattern hole features so I can place hardware with the component pattern tool in an assembly. That way the hardware location and count is dependant on the pattern in the part.

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JDMather — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:50:36 GMT

This face is wrong.

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JDMather — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:01:10 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
I couldn’t understand your 90 degree suggestion..

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Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:03:04 GMT

Yes I accept that. Thank you for pinpointing error.

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JDMather — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:06:58 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Yes I accept that. Thank you for pinpointing error.

But do you know how to easily fix the error?

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Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:11:25 GMT

Thank for show me exact angle position. How to represent 0.160 in the dialog box.

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Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:14:43 GMT

What I know is going to Edit Sketch and fix the error. No idea about other methods.

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JDMather — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:19:21 GMT

You should note from my image that the dimension is (.160), therefore it is a reference dimension (Driven Dimension) and not needed.

Whoever wrote that book does not know how do dimension a CounterSink Hole. That Depth value is redundant (and nearly impossible to measure with any accuracy out on the shop floor.

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Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:21:27 GMT

This text book is 2010 edition. Every day things are changing therefore there is a room for excuse.

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JDMather — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:27:53 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

This text book is 2010 edition. Every day things are changing therefore there is a room for excuse.

I have been doing this stuff for more than 20yrs. The standard was the same back in the last century when I was on the drawing board with pencil and paper. The author has it wrong. It is redundant, not needed.

If for some reason the author (or designer) wanted to include it, the dimension should be shown as Reference within parenthesis (.160).

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Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:35:21 GMT

In my understanding as 0.160 is a Driven Dimension of the hole means that this countersunk depth is determine by the depth of the hole only. What is the depth of the hole? As the hole is an oblique one what depth can be given to dialog box.

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JDMather — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 19:19:38 GMT

Instead of entering a depth for the hole - I would set it to Terminate on this face (To).

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Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:18:04 GMT

You can notice when "To" is selected OK button has become grey, no way to accept the selection. What is reason?

I wish to know what is ment by "To".

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swalton — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:31:22 GMT

It means that Inventor is waiting for you to select the terminating geometry for the hole feature. Select a planer surface in the graphics window to control the depth of the hole. Once you have made your selection, the OK button should become functional.

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Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:34:29 GMT

Thanks for your explanation.

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Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:35:08 GMT

Thanks for your help.

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SBix26 — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:13:44 GMT

@JDMather wrote:

You should note from my image that the dimension is (.160), therefore it is a reference dimension (Driven Dimension) and not needed.

Whoever wrote that book does not know how to dimension a CounterSink Hole. That Depth value is redundant (and nearly impossible to measure with any accuracy out on the shop floor.

While I agree wholeheartedly that dimensioning countersinks that way is an abomination, the depth value is not redundant, because no angle is specified. When I tried this model for myself, I had a big nasty equation for the angle which made use of the depth: = 2 ul * atan((CSinkDia - HoleDia) / 2 ul / .160 in)), if I recall correctly.

Sam B

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