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Create route as normal bom structure

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 11:57:50 GMT

Hi.

I have created a flexible hose style in the type and pipe styles and checked the "use subassembly" box.

If i create a route with this hose style it has the bom structure of the route set to Phantom.

Is there a way to change this to normal or inseparable? Where can i find this template file? Is is depending on the piping runs.iam?

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

Roelof.Feijen — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:47:26 GMT

Yes it is. It is located in your Design Data sub-folder > Tube & Pipe\en-US

Open it. Go to Tools > Document Settings > Bill of Materials tab

Change the Default BOM structure.

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 06:45:29 GMT

Thanks for your reply. I know about the piping runs template but when i open to edit it, it contains no routes or run. Will changing the bom structure of the top assembly also change the bom structure of its children? (i know this is not the case for regular assemblies)

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

Anonymous — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:18:01 GMT

I've tried changing the BOM structure of the piping runs.iam and it renders no change in the bom of the runs or routes that are created within the master runs assembly. Am i doing it wrong or maybe this just isn't supported.

I would also like to add a custom iproperty to all the runs that are created within the master piping runs. Is this possible? (think, i would like to find the template for the runs (not the master tubenpipe assembly)

//Jesper

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

blair — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:14:47 GMT

This is the default location for the "piping runs.iam" file: C:\Users\Public\Documents\Autodesk\Inventor 2017\Design Data\Tube & Pipe\en-US

This is the "Template" file that gets used for the tube & pipe runs. You need to open this file and make the changes to it and then save it. The next tube and pipe run you create will pick up the changes.

The T & P is still a throw back to the way Inventor ran for templates and styles before the "Style Manager" was added.

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

Anonymous — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 19:26:36 GMT

Hi, as i already have stated, the problem is not with finding or editing the piping runs.iam file. I have trouble changing the BOM structure of the files created WITHIN the piping runs. I would like to edit the default bom structure of the runs and routes i create. I would also like to add custom iproperties to these "templates".

See arrow in red where i would like to edit the bom and add iproperties. The piping runs.iam only changes the master runs assembly (active in the picture)

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

blair — Thu, 17 Nov 2016 19:59:44 GMT

You will need open the Template IAM file as I posted and make all the changes in this file. The BOM and addition of the custom iProperties. As in the picture you can see that I have two files. The one with the 2017 is the default IAM file that is shipped with Inventor that I've copied and renamed. All my changes for BOM and iProperties have been done to the file with the default name.

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 06:09:38 GMT

Hi Blair and thanks for your reply. The suggestion you posted is exactly how I do it (my file bakup is named BAK instead of 2017). But it feels like my question gets misinterpreted.

I do NOT want i add a custom property to the piping runs assembly. I want to add a custom property to the subassembly run and routes created within the piping runs.iam. Could you please test and verify the below steps to see if we get different results.

1. Open piping runs.iam

2. Add custom iProperty named "TEST" and change bom Structure to Normal.

3. Save your changes.

4. Create a new standard assembly and save it.

5. Create a new Tube and Pipe assembly from the environments tab. Keep the default names.

6. Exit the tube and pipe run and the tube and pipe environment.

7. open iproperties for the Run01 assembly (NOT the Tube & Pipe Runs assembly)

8. Do you find the TEST custom iproperty inside the Run01 assembly? (Yes, the TEST property gets added to the Tube and Pipe runs but not the Run01)

If your property has been added to the Run01 then something is wrong with my setup or brain.

If not, how do i add a custom iproperty (and change defauld bom structure) to the Runs i create?

Thanks /J

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

blair — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 06:20:39 GMT

I'll be back in the office on Monday and I can check then.

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

Roelof.Feijen — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 11:09:17 GMT

Hi,

Run01 wil use your default assembly template (Assembly.iam).

What setting are you using? Open your Assembly.iam template?

Please check the Default BOM Structure setting under Tools > Document Settings > Bill of Materials tab

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:28:55 GMT

Oh, Thanks! It never occurred to me to check the default assembly template since my default template is empty of any custom properties. I just have one follow up questions that might be more suited for the vault forum, but here goes.

When i check in my runs and routes to Vault. Is there any property to identify them inside vault? (similar to how content center parts have the "is content" property).

Thanks again

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

blair — Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:06:24 GMT

By default Inventor will place all T & P runs inside your work directory but in a folder with the name of the upper most IAM file name. They won't be placed by themselves within the work directory.

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

ThomasRambach — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:45:56 GMT

@Roelof.Feijen is this still the case for 2017+? We would like for runs to be phantom so fittings appear in the drawing BOM.

Re: Create route as normal bom structure

blair — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:05:33 GMT

If you wish for the fittings to appear in your BOM list, you would need to place the fittings first outside of the T & P, then enter the T & P assembly and place your hose only runs to and from the fittings.