topic Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree? in Inventor Forum

How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 01:41:58 GMT

Hi Guys,

Could you Please give me an Idea How I can find not fully mounted parts in one big assembly ?

I know there is specific icon type for fully grounded parts but what about those ones which they are fully mounted to some where and those ones which they are still floating in one/two directions inside a big assembly?

How to quickly detect them in the tree ?

(Currently I have to drag them by mouse to see if they are fully locked or not)

In advance thanks for any suggestion....

Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

Frank-Oosterwaal — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 07:21:38 GMT

Hi,

You can turn on the degrees of freedom. In the ribbon go to View -> Degrees of freedom.

All parts that are not fully constraint will show green arrows telling you they still have rotational or translational degrees of freedom.

In the picture below, the sphere inside the box and the cylinder still have degrees of freedom but the plate outside the box does not.

Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

rdyson — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 14:15:26 GMT

In addition to Frank-Oosterwaal's reply, there is also:
Assemble>Degree of Freedom Analysis in the Productivity drop down

Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

Anonymous — Sun, 20 Nov 2016 19:45:17 GMT

Thanks for your reply,

But I just want to know if there is any way to specify not fully mounted items in the Solid Tree?

in a big assembly working just with the graphic area is very time consuming specially when you have inner parts as well....

Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

mcgyvr — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 13:38:05 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for your reply,

But I just want to know if there is any way to specify not fully mounted items in the Solid Tree?

in a big assembly working just with the graphic area is very time consuming specially when you have inner parts as well....

No there is currently nothing that will show if parts have any degrees of freedom (not fully mounted/constrained) in the model browser (solid tree as you call it)

Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

-mtc- — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:36:11 GMT

You can use the search tool by clicking on the binoculars icon on top of the modelbrowser.

There is an option for "number of Degree of Freedom" (in german "Anzahl der Freiheitsgrade", hopefully the translation is right...)

By setting the condition to "does not equal = 0" the search shows all floating parts.

Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

mcgyvr — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:46:23 GMT

@-mtc- wrote:

You can use the search tool by clicking on the binoculars icon on top of the modelbrowser.

There is an option for "number of Degree of Freedom" (in german "Anzahl der Freiheitsgrade", hopefully the translation is right...)

By setting the condition to "does not equal = 0" the search shows all floating parts.

There you go.. That might work..

I've never had any good luck with the search tool in the model browser.. Its never worked as well as I would expect for me..

Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 01:28:40 GMT

Thanks for all the answer guys 🙂

By the way its very confusing to find a part between 100 of other parts inside or outside of each other and lots of different arrows in the graphic area !

I only want to see if Autodesk has got any specific Icon for detecting not fully mounted and in place parts in its solid tree or not?

It seems has got nothing till now and we might post it to the Idea suggestions section for their improvement in the future.

Back in the days when I was working with Solid works suddenly I could find the floating parts between other parts by just a quick look to the solid tree (or model browser) and no more confusing in the graphic area !

Cheers

Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

blair — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 04:02:47 GMT

You can expand the browser tree to see if the parts have any constraints but to determine if a part requires one, two or three constraints to fully constrain the part is tough. Using a iMate for a nut to a hole will constrain the nut, it will still rotate about the hole. You could use an angle constraint to stop the rotation as well as a flush or possible a mate constraint to stop the rotation.

Re: How to detect floating parts in assembly tree?

mcgyvr — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 13:32:19 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for all the answer guys 🙂

I only want to see if Autodesk has got any specific Icon for detecting not fully mounted and in place parts in its solid tree or not?

Cheers

No they currently don't have an icon that shows in the solid tree to see if a part is fully constrained..